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Re:Why we will not be registering easydns.sucks by vortico on Friday April 10, 2015 @11:15PM (#9358309)
Domain names are a mess. They're backwards (should be us.ag.bobsforestryservice), and since most domains just end with .com, there's no hierarchy. In my opinion, if ICANN wanted a hierarchy, they should be strictly regulating the names, including checking ownership of trademark, checking country of registration, etc. So thus we have AOL keywords.
Re:Why we will not be registering easydns.sucks by kissickas on Saturday April 11, 2015 @03:16AM (#9358804)
That's the second time I've seen this argument made on HN this week. Why does that make more sense?

If I start typing in my address bar "g" then google.com is the first completion suggestion. If I want to get more specific, I can type "n" and news.google.com becomes the first suggestion. Or "m" and I go to mail.google.com. If we had to write "com." before any of these came up, it would mean a serious loss of productivity for everyone. The current system provides one or two layers of specificity before the TLD, then as many more as you would like (like /item?id=9357898 on the end of this URL, something nobody will every type) - it's ideal for everyday use even if it doesn't fit into some clean sorting method you're imagining or something.

For what it's worth, today is 2015/04/11 :)

Re:Why we will not be registering easydns.sucks by qrmn on Saturday April 11, 2015 @05:10AM (#9358935)
Because directory hierarchies go from top to bottom - /dir/subdir/file.ext - or, globally, //hostname/dir/subdir/file.ext, or protocol://hostname/dir/subdir/file.ext etc.

That the hostname part's components, as presented to users, goes from bottom-to-top in DNS when the rest goes from top-to-bottom is an accident of history, but one it's too late to change (in DNS). Not everything made that mistake however - Usenet didn't.

As for what you're typing in your 'awesome bar', when you start typing, your autocorrect is ranking your visited history: there's no reason it has to start at the beginning, especially when the beginning isn't the root, but there's also no reason that doesn't make sense.

In fact, drifting back to topic: GOOGLE. is in fact a TLD now. If DNS were the 'right' way round, you'd be going to //google.news - wouldn't that make more semantic sense?

Of course, in practice, we're stuck with DNS the way it is because .com is now firmly in the public consciousness. But it could easily have been different, and if I were designing something new, I'd pick the Usenet way round.

Re:Why we will not be registering easydns.sucks by rascul on Saturday April 11, 2015 @08:29AM (#9359242)
Re:Why we will not be registering easydns.sucks by jahewson on Saturday April 11, 2015 @12:13PM (#9359754)
Autocomplete could work the other way around, with "n" finding `∗.news` and `g.news` finding `∗g.news`, after all that `news.google.com` actually starts with `http://`.
Re:Why we will not be registering easydns.sucks by kissickas on Saturday April 11, 2015 @01:26PM (#9359937)
Personally, I don't start typing every address knowing that autocomplete will be there for me. I'm just sped up when it is.
Re:Why we will not be registering easydns.sucks by pbhjpbhj on Saturday April 11, 2015 @04:04PM (#9360560)
You always start with http[s]:// ??

Since the AwesomeBar became a thing and I learnt the #, *, ^, + search modifiers [1] I've seldom typed an address.

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[1] http://alicious.com/fast-bookmark-and-history-search-in-fire...

Re:Why we will not be registering easydns.sucks by TheLoneWolfling on Saturday April 11, 2015 @12:44PM (#9359829)
Autocomplete doesn't need to be in order. And indeed it isn't. I type in yc, I get HN as the first result - that starts with an n, not yc.
Re:Why we will not be registering easydns.sucks by quonn on Saturday April 11, 2015 @02:34AM (#9358741)
> and since most domains just end with .com, there's no hierarchy

That's a very US-centric view. In most countries the local ccTLD will dominate, so there is _some_ hierarchy.

Re:Why we will not be registering easydns.sucks by zo1 on Saturday April 11, 2015 @04:52AM (#9358911)
Yes, and I got downvoted by this crowd last time I mentioned as much. Some random SF-specific project launches, and snags up yet another .com domain. It's not even something like "san_fran_project.com", it was even more generic.

On that note, I'm fully with the GP. This sort of thing should be enforced. It would help with everything from spam, to fake sites, to weird domain name pollution as discussed here.

Re:Why we will not be registering easydns.sucks by allendoerfer on Saturday April 11, 2015 @07:51AM (#9359173)
They should really have done that. TLDs that are properly regulated do have a meaning and are successfully used in their space. Examples are .gov or .edu (except that they should have put in a country layer) and .de, which is the most successful CTLD, because unlike .co or .io it is used only by entities that actually have a physical address in Germany.