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Re:Hidden backdoor API to root privileges in Apple OS X by com2kid on Thursday April 09, 2015 @03:31PM (#9350354)
> Windows is out of the question after seeing what a factory OEM image comes with nowadays. I'm not giving them money and spending 2 days formatting/reinstalling/seeking out drivers on slow Taiwanese servers just to make a half-usable computer. And then, after all that, spend another 2 days installing various adware infested shitware to get a fricking PDF viewer.

Microsoft Signature PCs solve this problem. :)

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/Signatur...

Re:Hidden backdoor API to root privileges in Apple OS X by PopsiclePete on Thursday April 09, 2015 @04:48PM (#9350927)
Don't know how many of these are at, say, Costco. Which is where many people shop.

I'm never buying a Windows laptop, so it doesn't affect me, but I'm still the resident "family IT specialist". And I know, I just know I'm going to be asked lots of questions I don't have the patience for, as these poor bastards wonder why their computers are slow, all because the shitty OEM wanted to make a few cents off pre-installed shitware.

It doesn't affect me directly, I don't touch Windows laptops unless I'm wearing gloves, but the principle of the thing pisses me off. You're being treated without respect, basically.

It's like a car manufacturer selling you a car with a "feature" that takes away 50 HP to play a jingle every time you turn on your headlights, all because the got paid $7.34 by the jingle manufacturer.

Re:Hidden backdoor API to root privileges in Apple OS X by com2kid on Thursday April 09, 2015 @05:43PM (#9351252)
> It's like a car manufacturer selling you a car with a "feature" that takes away 50 HP to play a jingle every time you turn on your headlights, all because the got paid $7.34 by the jingle manufacturer.

Not that bad, but my car does come with what amounts for an advertisement for Sirius Radio built in.

:(

I was also offered a TON of extra add-ons when I bought my car. I'd say it was roughly equivalent to the process of setting up a new low-end PC in regards to the number of ad requests I got.

On the PC side, this is all typically mitigated by not buying the cheapest PC possible. In my experience (and this is not universally true!) the higher end SKUs are more customer centric, since at that point the customer is the one paying the entire cost of the device!

(See also, Nexus devices versus carrier branded phone models!)

Re:Hidden backdoor API to root privileges in Apple OS X by venomsnake on Thursday April 09, 2015 @05:59PM (#9351329)
Just do clean install. I always do it on friend's new laptops. 10 minutes. Saves lots of time later.
Re:Hidden backdoor API to root privileges in Apple OS X by com2kid on Thursday April 09, 2015 @07:09PM (#9351623)
On Laptops this can actually be rather hard. Many manufacturers use somewhat odd drivers for their keyboards, trackpads, and other components.

I know what I am doing, and I still budget a good couple hours worst case to get all the drivers up and running again.

Re:Hidden backdoor API to root privileges in Apple OS X by EC1 on Thursday April 09, 2015 @08:03PM (#9351814)
The fact that they even need to have a separate version of Windows which is what it should have been from day 1 is already bullshit.