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Re:The future of the postdoc by 6stringmerc on Tuesday April 07, 2015 @04:01PM (#9336757)
Wait, what?

I understand that there is a stipend to working in a lab while as a student (akin to being a TA), but while obtaining a PhD in a top program, I highly doubt tuition is reimbursed, and that still doesn't cover living expenses in a major metropolitan area. I mean, if you can name a Top 25 university from each San Fran, Boston, New York, Atlanta, Baltimore, and Dallas that consistently provide PhD students tuition reimbursement and a stipend that enables a modestly reasonable quality of life, I'd really be interested. I'm a little tongue in cheek here but bear with my skepticism.

Re:The future of the postdoc by searine on Tuesday April 07, 2015 @04:18PM (#9336870)
> I highly doubt tuition is reimbursed, and that still doesn't cover living expenses in a major metropolitan area.

I went to a top school. Never paid a dime in tuition, and was paid 28K a year.

> I mean, if you can name a Top 25 university from each San Fran, Boston, New York, Atlanta, Baltimore, and Dallas that consistently provide PhD students tuition reimbursement and a stipend that enables a modestly reasonable quality of life, I'd really be interested.

All of them.

You don't have a good program unless you do.

Re:The future of the postdoc by wfo on Tuesday April 07, 2015 @04:13PM (#9336839)
Every single PhD Mathematics program I've ever heard of covers full tuition and provides a stipend for the full period of study for the vast majority of its students -- it isn't particularly generous, but it's livable if you're willing to be frugal and focus on your work. The problem is the opportunity cost of someone with mathematical capacity at a doctorate level barely breaking even for 4-6 years before they even begin their career.
Re:The future of the postdoc by eddotman on Tuesday April 07, 2015 @04:13PM (#9336838)
That sounds strange. Pretty much all the top STEM PhD programs (MIT, Harvard, Stanford, etc.) offer a liveable stipend and full tuition reimbursement with medical insurance. e.g. MIT gives like $30k/yr, which is reasonable to live on in Boston, and we never pay a cent of tuition.
Re:The future of the postdoc by simonster on Tuesday April 07, 2015 @04:25PM (#9336923)
Yes, at least at the top tiers, you get paid enough to live on without an additional funding source. OTOH, $30K/year is usually several times less than a good graduate student could make in industry. While the pay is livable, it's difficult to argue that it's market rate. Or to put it another way, academic institutions don't value their employees in a way that's commensurate with their skill set.
Re:The future of the postdoc by bkcooper on Tuesday April 07, 2015 @04:06PM (#9336788)
. . . but while obtaining a PhD in a top program, I highly doubt tuition is reimbursed

I'm with the GP here, your experience sounds very weird to me. Tuition remission is a pretty standard benefit, often handled by the department at the beginning, and then eventually by your advisor (but often by that point you're not taking much in the way of classes anyway.)

Re:The future of the postdoc by brendano on Tuesday April 07, 2015 @04:09PM (#9336809)
It's very, very rare that PhD students pay tuition in any reasonable science or engineering program.
Re:The future of the postdoc by _rpd on Wednesday April 08, 2015 @03:49PM (#9343410)
In fact, it is common advice to reject any offers that don't include a tuition waver. It signals that the candidate didn't really meet the department's standards, but that an exception will be made if they are independently wealthy.