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Re:Chelsea Manning is tweeting from prison by Frondo on Monday April 06, 2015 @04:14AM (#9327133)
Wait, so you're saying... you don't disagree that all people have a human right to participate in their own government?

That you only don't think all people should have the right to participate in all governments?

Re:Chelsea Manning is tweeting from prison by vacri on Tuesday April 07, 2015 @12:31AM (#9332026)
Eh? I didn't say not in their own government. I said that people who are not French citizens can't vote in the French elections, and it's not a violation of human rights that they can't. I didn't say that Russians shouldn't be able to vote in Russia.

Stop strawmanning my words.

Edit: to be clearer - being able to get involved in your own government is a human right. Being able to vote in the French elections is a civil right, reserved to French citizens.

All cats are animals, but not all animals are cats.

Re:Chelsea Manning is tweeting from prison by Frondo on Thursday April 09, 2015 @09:33PM (#9352099)
The thing is, I can't even understand where the claim that "being able to participate in other people's government is a human right" is coming from.

I think we're saying the same thing, but somehow we got our signals mixed up.