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Re:The truth about the Bitcoin Foundation by swombat on Saturday April 04, 2015 @10:18AM (#9320882)
What do you mean "we have new rules"??

Where are those rules? Where the fuck can I see them? Who the fuck made them?

Edit: Ok, I can see the link on the first page - hadn't seen the announcement.

On the announcement: Where does it say anything about reducing the number of fucks in a post? It talks about gratuitous negativity. How does saying "Fuck bitcoin" or "Fuck money" involve gratuitous negativity? It's not directed at anyone.

Seriously, if this place becomes some sort of Political Correctness bubble where swearing is discouraged in this way, that's an amazing distortion of the hacker spirit.

Sam's article talks about not directing gratuitous negativity at people when you're arguing with them. That has very little correlation with your use of words like "fuck" or "shit". Seriously.

The OP wanted to express a point about money and about bitcoin. It was best expressed with the word "fuck". The word "forget" doesn't get it across to me at all. That has nothing to do with the person he was responding to.

Re:The truth about the Bitcoin Foundation by dang on Saturday April 04, 2015 @04:49PM (#9322166)
> Sam's article talks about not directing gratuitous negativity at people when you're arguing with them.

Correct. That, plus not being gratuitously dismissive of others' work, like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9314065 was. (I don't cite that to pick on a particular commenter; some users said they would find examples helpful and it's a random recent one.) Substantive, respectful criticism is of course fine and valuable.

Re:The truth about the Bitcoin Foundation by Veedrac on Saturday April 04, 2015 @10:27AM (#9320902)
Re:The truth about the Bitcoin Foundation by tedunangst on Saturday April 04, 2015 @10:32AM (#9320917)
Literally the first link on the front page.
Re:The truth about the Bitcoin Foundation by jordigh on Saturday April 04, 2015 @10:45AM (#9320953)
I don't have a problem with the word "fuck" itself, or I wouldn't be quoting it.

The problem is that it's being used quite aggressively here, dismissing bitcoins, dismissing money, and being overly combative. After the second "fuck [whatever thing]" statement, it's already noticeable enough and an easy way to pinpoint an exact instance of combative or aggressive tone. I like the new rules about less negativity, so I thought I'd try to "enforce" them. Wrong word, remind people about them, instead.

Re:The truth about the Bitcoin Foundation by dang on Saturday April 04, 2015 @05:04PM (#9322203)
I didn't see the original comment and appreciate your positive intention, but you might have been slightly off in practice there.

By "gratuitous negativity" we're mostly talking about how community members treat each other and their work. It's ok to kick ideas around a bit harder. And certainly a few uses of "fuck" don't hurt. It looks to me like kang was just being enthusiastic.

That kind of thing can break the guidelines if someone overdoes it repeatedly and their comments add no new information or arguments. But that's not the case here.

Re:The truth about the Bitcoin Foundation by kang on Saturday April 04, 2015 @08:29AM (#9320651)
Replaced 'fuck' with 'forget'. It was never used in any negative sense.
Re:The truth about the Bitcoin Foundation by swombat on Saturday April 04, 2015 @10:42AM (#9320944)
Your post is weaker for it. The word "fuck" was appropriate to express what you wanted to express. The word "forget" is lame and forgettable. I'm sorry to see your post neutered by some kind of sudden appearance of a PC-police on HN, using the excuse of sama's post to try and restrict your way to express your ideas (which are not showing any of the kind of "gratuitous negativity" that sama talks about in his post). For shame.
Re:The truth about the Bitcoin Foundation by dang on Saturday April 04, 2015 @04:47PM (#9322158)
That's correct. Thanks for saying so. If there is any sincere misunderstanding it may be necessary to repeat this a few times, but hopefully it won't last.
Re:The truth about the Bitcoin Foundation by dang on Saturday April 04, 2015 @04:44PM (#9322146)
I didn't see the original version of your comment, but it was probably fine.

It's natural for there to be a few glitches while the community works out how to interpret what "gratuitous negativity" means in practice, but as a hint, we're mostly talking about being mean to others and/or being glibly dismissive of their work. We're definitely not talking about bowdlerizing conversation. We'd hate that as much as most HN users would.