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Re:Disrespect in Education (2014) by sago on Friday April 03, 2015 @12:47PM (#9316905)
You don't get to Carnegie Hall as a violinist by playing like a robot.

It's amusing in these conversations how quickly some people go from "say no to drugery and busy work" to "but its essential for discipline!", its almost as if they've been inculturated into a pathological system of education.

Re:Disrespect in Education (2014) by thatcat on Friday April 03, 2015 @03:04PM (#9317734)
>"but its essential for discipline!"

the discipline to do what though? To be good at drudgery and busy work would prepare you to face down boredom and learn how to overcome larger bureaucratic barriers to accessing information and to participate in us legal/civil society.

Re:Disrespect in Education (2014) by unoti on Friday April 03, 2015 @02:07PM (#9317399)
Show me a top-tier musician, and I'll show you someone who could write a book about self-discipline, pursuit of excellence, and working hard even when they don't feel like it.
Re:Disrespect in Education (2014) by sago on Friday April 03, 2015 @02:47PM (#9317637)
Right, which just further proves my point.

If you think I or the OP would argue anything else, then you're falling into precisely the trap I identified.