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Re:Pin-pointing China's attack against GitHub by jacquesm on Thursday April 02, 2015 @06:49AM (#9309821)
> Do people really think they are that stupid ?

That's not really a defence. They could easily be that stupid, bureaucracies tend to do extremely stupid stuff when looked at from the outside but every cog on the inside thinks that its action makes perfect sense.

> This Github DDoS has got to be the work of someone trying to frame the Chinese government.

Evidence?

> Has anyone considered that angle ?

Sure, but so far the evidence is that that is not the case.

If it is someone trying to frame the Chinese government I'm sure they'll tell us all about it soon.

Re:Pin-pointing China's attack against GitHub by simula67 on Thursday April 02, 2015 @07:28AM (#9309962)
> bureaucracies tend to do extremely stupid stuff when looked at from the outside but every cog on the inside thinks that its action makes perfect sense.

If this is Chinese doing, the likely ones responsible are the Chinese Intelligence, not their bureaucracy.

> Evidence?

Occam's Razor. I find it hard to believe that a society with sufficient level of sophistication to obtain $9 trillion GDP[1] would 'accidentally' go on to declare cyber war on US. Especially considering the fact that the attack itself was pretty sophisticated.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nom...

Re:Pin-pointing China's attack against GitHub by chucksmash on Thursday April 02, 2015 @08:44AM (#9310292)
I question your invocation of Occam's Razor here. Between:

1) the attack is perpetrated by the entity the evidence suggests and

2) the attack was prepetrated by another entity who cleverly used infrastructure of the first entity to frame them for it,

applying Occam's Razor would suggest situation #1 in lieu of evidence to the contrary.

Re:Pin-pointing China's attack against GitHub by simula67 on Thursday April 02, 2015 @09:51AM (#9310631)
On closer examination, you seem to be correct. Without insight into how Chinese secret service works the simplest explanation is that the attack was likely perpetrated by them and that is what we must assume to be of highest probability. I will leave my comments here for posterity.
Re:Pin-pointing China's attack against GitHub by ptaipale on Thursday April 02, 2015 @07:42AM (#9310003)
> the Chinese Intelligence, not their bureaucracy.

Intelligence agencies are bureaucracies. Some are more efficient (less wasteful) than others, but in the end, intelligence work is seldom about secret agents driving Aston Martins. Most of it has always been paperwork. Paperwork is nowadays in electronic format. I don't think the Chinese intelligence agencies are an exception.

Re:Pin-pointing China's attack against GitHub by stefantalpalaru on Thursday April 02, 2015 @10:23AM (#9310843)
Occam's Razor is unscientific. Unless you know of any proof that given 2 or more possible explanations for a phenomenon the simplest one is always closer to the truth.