Re:Today is Arduino Day
by mmastrac on Saturday March 28, 2015 @07:14PM
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The Arduino trademark disputes stemming from the rogue founder left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth. I'm going to be staying away from the official Arduino hardware until there's some clarity around the whole thing.
Re:Today is Arduino Day
by IshKebab on Saturday March 28, 2015 @07:32PM
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Meh. Arduino have rested on their laurels for too long. mBed is far better these days.
For example the NUCLEO-F411RE is less than half the price of an Arduino (£7 vs £17) and far higher spec (100 MHz vs 16 MHz, FPU, more pins, etc. etc. etc.) Also mBed's code is much much better.
Re:Today is Arduino Day
by mkl on Saturday March 28, 2015 @10:44PM
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They still have effectively no RAM, though. I clicked through for the first one I saw with as much as 256kB of RAM, and it was US$35, the same price as my 1.5GHz quad-core ODroid C1, which has 1GB of RAM. I don't understand this. Is it purely a power efficiency thing?
The NUCLEO-F411RE has a product page but doesn't seem to be for sale on that site. Where can you get it?
Re:Today is Arduino Day
by barbs on Saturday March 28, 2015 @07:19PM
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How come I didn't hear about this? I don't remember seeing anything on Hacker News, and my local Internet of Things meetup don't appear to know anything about it either. I would've maybe looked to organise something in Sydney, had I known.
Re:Today is Arduino Day
by carbocation on Saturday March 28, 2015 @07:49PM
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Submitter here. Sadly, I also didn't hear about it until it was too late (in Boston). I stumbled across it because I was browsing the Arduino.cc site today!
Re:Today is Arduino Day
by schappim on Saturday March 28, 2015 @11:28PM
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Big, we (littlebirdelectronics.com) found in Australia that people are now way more interested in embedded Linux. Embedded Linux projects now accounts for roughly 50% of our sales .
Re:Today is Arduino Day
by bigiain on Sunday March 29, 2015 @02:14AM
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Hey Marcus, I'm sure you're right, but I'm guessing those are not identical sets of people.
I know a bunch of people who are buying RaspberryPis and BeagleBoards and Galileos - some of them have never picked up a soldering iron or hot glue gun in their lives - some of the people I'm thinking of here are front end devs who love the idea of a server they own/control, or people who have a specific "computer task" they'd like a dedicated inexpensive machine for (media server, file server, firewall, internet radio box, that sort of stuff). For them, Arduino is all a bit alien and unapproachable, and also quite useless for the ideas in their heads.
I also see many people who want to drive servos/steppers/motors/solenoids/etc, who've either fried a RaspberryPi's 3.3v gpio already, or who've got a project idea for which there's a great Arduino library already existing but for which they'd have to write their own in the embedded linux world. Many of these people (and I'm mostly in this camp) often start projects out with an Arduino (or similar) to interact with "the real world" - sensors, servos, motors, relays, gps, leds, lasers, whatever - and only add in a linux board when neccessary (that "RaspberryPi + Arduino" combination is spectacuarly common, bot for projects and as the prototype stage of products with custom built electronics. I know that's where our Moorescloud hardware started - didn't your NinjaBlocks start out that way too?)
It'd be interesting to see from your sales data how many of your embedded linux sales are to customers who've never bought any "Arduino-type" microcontroller stuff, and how many of your Arduino customers are also RasPi/embedded-linux purchasers.
http://hackaday.com/2015/03/28/arduino-srl-to-distributors-w...
The entire thing is utterly confusing to an outsider, but I think that arduino.cc -- the ones linked above -- are "the good guys" in this fight.
EDIT: previous discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9231708
For example the NUCLEO-F411RE is less than half the price of an Arduino (£7 vs £17) and far higher spec (100 MHz vs 16 MHz, FPU, more pins, etc. etc. etc.) Also mBed's code is much much better.
mBed boards: http://developer.mbed.org/platforms/
NUCLEO-F411RE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=63&v=g3p6iX_RpEc
The NUCLEO-F411RE has a product page but doesn't seem to be for sale on that site. Where can you get it?
edit - I know they're different. But for many projects, it just doesn't matter. Stop telling me they're different.
When you're asking yourself whether you should use a RPi or an Arduino:
RPi Cons: RPi has analogue in pins, limited PWM etc, an OS and file system you need to take into consideration when building a project.
RPi Pros: You can use pretty much whatever language (natively) you want. It's a computer. Much better support for Audio / Video built-in.
If it doesn't matter, then why pick one over the other? Why not go with the uno over the rpi? It doesn't matter, right?
Cheers all, Happy 10th Arduino.
The OzberryPi crowd, who are the other Sydney based bunch I'd have half expected to be interested, are all a bit quiet right now...
I know a bunch of people who are buying RaspberryPis and BeagleBoards and Galileos - some of them have never picked up a soldering iron or hot glue gun in their lives - some of the people I'm thinking of here are front end devs who love the idea of a server they own/control, or people who have a specific "computer task" they'd like a dedicated inexpensive machine for (media server, file server, firewall, internet radio box, that sort of stuff). For them, Arduino is all a bit alien and unapproachable, and also quite useless for the ideas in their heads.
I also see many people who want to drive servos/steppers/motors/solenoids/etc, who've either fried a RaspberryPi's 3.3v gpio already, or who've got a project idea for which there's a great Arduino library already existing but for which they'd have to write their own in the embedded linux world. Many of these people (and I'm mostly in this camp) often start projects out with an Arduino (or similar) to interact with "the real world" - sensors, servos, motors, relays, gps, leds, lasers, whatever - and only add in a linux board when neccessary (that "RaspberryPi + Arduino" combination is spectacuarly common, bot for projects and as the prototype stage of products with custom built electronics. I know that's where our Moorescloud hardware started - didn't your NinjaBlocks start out that way too?)
It'd be interesting to see from your sales data how many of your embedded linux sales are to customers who've never bought any "Arduino-type" microcontroller stuff, and how many of your Arduino customers are also RasPi/embedded-linux purchasers.
> Posted pretty much at the end of the day
Swing and a miss there Arudino, swing and a miss