The Unemployment Rate for People Like You

Re:The Unemployment Rate for People Like You by dschobel on Saturday November 07, 2009 @05:53AM (#927745)

I think fear of litigation is probably a significant factor. I have a friend who practices labor and employment law and he's kept on retainer at a few big companies to field calls such as "can we fire this person and not get sued?".

They literally have a point system. Race, sex, sexual preference and disabilities (basically any protected class) are all assigned a certain number of points.

Regardless if you're trying to fire someone for cause, if they are in some dangerous combination of protected classes (watch out for disabled black lesbians) and you want to minimize legal exposure, they'll advise you to keep them and put them in a position where they can do no harm to company.

He has one firm who has an employee who has sued them five (!) separate times for racial discrimination (according to my friend, anytime the person gets a bad review or reprimanded). They can't get rid of the person for fear it'll look like retaliation.

The whole situation is completely degenerate.

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Re:The Unemployment Rate for People Like You by yummyfajitas on Saturday November 07, 2009 @08:15AM (#927810)

Sounds like a good reason for even a non-racist to avoid hiring minorities and other protected classes.

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Re:The Unemployment Rate for People Like You by jerf on Saturday November 07, 2009 @10:17AM (#927925)

Actually, that's a generalized problem with firing protections of any kind; the harder you make it to fire anyone, the less likely they are to be hired in the first place. Another case where second-order effects can end up dominating the end results. "At-will employment" sounds like a worker disaster if you only consider first-order effects, but in my opinion it is actually the preferable scenario for a worker if you consider everything.

Well, for a good worker anyhow.

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Re:The Unemployment Rate for People Like You by miked on Sunday November 08, 2009 @06:34AM (#929187)

These second order effects are a big problem in Europe. The governments there make it very expensive to fire anyone; typically around 6 months wages for anyone laid off, I think. As a result, companies are loath to hire new workers, even when an economic upswing is under way. Result: chronically high unemployment rates and young people who can't get jobs and don't understand why, not to mention increased risk aversion for companies.

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Re:The Unemployment Rate for People Like You by gaius on Sunday November 08, 2009 @08:56AM (#929262)

Unfortunately in most large companies that means "promote them to management".

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