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Re:A lot more market-rate construction helps low-income rent... by collyw on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @06:13AM (#9255688)
"it doesn't favor the wealthy but it should"

Wtf? How do you get to that conclusion when inequality has been growing for the last 40 years?

Re:A lot more market-rate construction helps low-income rent... by yummyfajitas on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @07:00AM (#9255831)
A wealthy software developer produces a lot of value in an hour, whereas a poor barista does not. If the developer lives 10 minutes from work while the barista commutes for 1 hour, the developer has more time to spend on productive activities. The world is then better off.

This is of course completely tangential to the main point, namely that they both can live in SF if we build more housing.

Re:A lot more market-rate construction helps low-income rent... by ObviousScience on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @08:57AM (#9256257)
> The world is then better off.

This conclusion doesn't follow from your premises, unless you include the hidden premise that more wealth in the world is the only criterion you're using.

Once you begin looking at things like wealth distribution or the like as measures of "better", your argument doesn't reach that conclusion.

Re:A lot more market-rate construction helps low-income rent... by whybroke on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @09:31AM (#9256392)
He also implies that the firemen, ambulances drives and nurses who protect a city subject to earthquakes shouldn't live in it (and thereby likely be absent when an earthquake isolates it by knocking down the bridges again).

But logic must take a backseat to ideology.

Re:A lot more market-rate construction helps low-income rent... by pron on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @02:33PM (#9258480)
> A wealthy software developer produces a lot of value in an hour, whereas a poor barista does not.

I could argue the exact opposite. The barista assists those who'd like to drink a cup of coffee and contemplate, and increasing contemplation creates a lot of value (intrinsic value) -- maybe not every barista, but this particular one does -- whereas the software developer writes programs that make soul-crushing economic activities more efficient, and so sucks away value from the world.

> The world is then better off.

Or worse off. It all depends on how you see value, which, naturally, is part of your personal value system. For example, in my opinion, a single crippled cat may create more inspiration for a great work of art than, say, Uber. I therefore see a single crippled cat (or any cat, for that matter) as making the world much better off than an inane ride-sharing smartphone app. I would venture to guess that you believe Uber is more valuable than a cat. You value efficiency, I value inefficiency (or, rather, freedom from efficiency); you value rational behavior while I value spite -- or freedom from rationality (not all the time, of course); you value freedom from the will of the masses, while I value freedom from the will of corporations.

BTW, are you a Dark Enlightenment believer? If so, I'd love to shoot you an email, if you don't mind.

Re:A lot more market-rate construction helps low-income rent... by tzs on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @09:39AM (#9256436)
> If the developer lives 10 minutes from work while the barista commutes for 1 hour, the developer has more time to spend on productive activities. The world is then better off.

You got that completely backwards. A developer can be productive during the commute. Given modern offices with their distractions, an hour commute each way can give a developer much needed time for design and analysis. The barista, on the other hand, does nothing productive while commuting.

Re:A lot more market-rate construction helps low-income rent... by collyw on Thursday March 26, 2015 @09:38AM (#9269435)
I would argue that many of the worlds greatest ideas did not come about through the value generated in workplace.
Re:A lot more market-rate construction helps low-income rent... by Lawtonfogle on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @09:25AM (#9256363)
Business value does not equate true value. People have become rich doing things that have left the world worse off.
Re:A lot more market-rate construction helps low-income rent... by specialist on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @06:43AM (#9255770)
Didn't you read the link? Neo-techno-crypto-pseudo-anarcho-cheerios-reactionaryification-antimodernism. Illuminating.