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Re:Pinterest lets employees exercise options 7 years after l... by jedberg on Monday March 23, 2015 @08:14PM (#9254154)
FWIW, Netflix gives you 10 years. Despite the fact that I left a few weeks ago, I still have about six years left to exercise them.
Re:Pinterest lets employees exercise options 7 years after l... by mrgriscom on Monday March 23, 2015 @08:16PM (#9254161)
Why haven't you? Aren't they public?
Re:Pinterest lets employees exercise options 7 years after l... by fsk on Monday March 23, 2015 @08:32PM (#9254216)
If the options aren't that far in-the-money, and he doesn't need the cash now, it's actually better to wait to exercise.

If he exercises now, he only gets the raw value (current price - strike).

If he waits to exercise, he get the time-value of money and implied leverage (he doesn't have to cough up the strike until he exercises), and the optionality part (if Netflix goes below the strike, he can decline to exercise).

He also can hedge by short-selling (and lock in a sure profit no matter what), but you'd need a big-value account at a brokerage to hedge on favorable terms.

Re:Pinterest lets employees exercise options 7 years after l... by jedberg on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @12:47AM (#9254950)
> He also can hedge by short-selling (and lock in a sure profit no matter what), but you'd need a big-value account at a brokerage to hedge on favorable terms.

It's interesting, because I thought about this. When I worked for the company I wasn't allowed to hedge, because you can't buy shorts in the company you work for.

Now that I'm out I can, but the problem is, the company gave me such good options there is no way I can buy an opposite option for the hedge. For example, there is no retail short for more than two years, but my options still have between 6 and 9 years left.

Re:Pinterest lets employees exercise options 7 years after l... by fsk on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @05:19PM (#9259574)
Buy the longest term put and roll the position when it is near expiration. Don't fully hedge, just 1/2 to 1/6.

Also, don't write covered calls, that gives up too much upside. Instead, sell outright.

Re:Pinterest lets employees exercise options 7 years after l... by beagle3 on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @12:39AM (#9254933)
But if he doesn't hold the stock for at least one year, he gets short-term capital gains rate of 35%, rather than the long-term one of 15%, which might tip the scale the other way.

But then again, if he exercises in one year and does not sell that year, he gets the tax bill in the exercise year, potentially with no way to cover it.

It's a lot more complicated than it should be.

Re:Pinterest lets employees exercise options 7 years after l... by vanessa98 on Monday March 23, 2015 @08:29PM (#9254204)
Left to go where?
Re:Pinterest lets employees exercise options 7 years after l... by jedberg on Monday March 23, 2015 @10:44PM (#9254607)
At the moment, home to my 3 month old daughter. :)

I probably won't look for something new for a while.

Re:Pinterest lets employees exercise options 7 years after l... by phillc73 on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @04:02AM (#9255347)
Good call. I sold my small business in London about a month before my son was born. Now, 11 months later, apart from a small amount of consulting from home, I haven't really been employed for that time.

Financially, the move hasn't made a lot of sense. We moved to a cheaper country and we've not been short of rent/food/baby clothes etc, but I have drawn down quite a lot on my capital.

Nonetheless, I am 100% positive I made the right decision. I expect to look back in years to come and be grateful of being able to spend so much time with my newborn.

Re:Pinterest lets employees exercise options 7 years after l... by jedberg on Tuesday March 24, 2015 @11:52AM (#9257375)
The awesome part is every dad I've talked to had either one of two responses: 1) I did the same thing and it's the best thing I've ever done (like you) or 2) I wish I had done that when my kid was born.

Everyone has been very supportive of the idea!

Re:Pinterest lets employees exercise options 7 years after l... by harryh on Monday March 23, 2015 @08:55PM (#9254306)
Was this true pre IPO?
Re:Pinterest lets employees exercise options 7 years after l... by jedberg on Monday March 23, 2015 @10:43PM (#9254597)
I don't think it was.