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Re:I Hate the News (2006) by austenallred on Wednesday March 18, 2015 @01:22PM (#9227122)
I started the news site because I have the same frustrations Swartz has. Most of the news is bullshit and a worthless time-suck. All of the examples he uses, all of the websites out there, feel completely irrelevant to me and not interesting whatsoever.

I disagree with him that it's 100% - I think it's just 99.9%, and that .01% is valuable. Perhaps that's a major difference, but Swartz's point was that it's not valuable enough to waste time on. I'd like to think that if he could spend 30 seconds to get that .01% of important news he would feel differently. But, of course, we'll never know.

Re:I Hate the News (2006) by CHaro on Wednesday March 18, 2015 @07:38PM (#9229354)
The article decries constantly checking up on the news filling your mind with things that do not actually effect you which leads you to a more unproductive day. I signed up for grasswire a couple minutes ago and at the first moment I'm bombarded with a twitter-like feed of random news events all that have nothing to do with me.

How is this addressing the frustrations you claim to have in common with Swartz?

Re:I Hate the News (2006) by sparkzilla on Wednesday March 18, 2015 @01:41PM (#9227259)
I find it interesting that someone who is making a news site would say that most of the news is "bullshit and a worthless time suck". Are you really saying that just 0.1% of the news on your site has value? Perhaps you should take Swartz's advice and stop fighting to improve something that has so little value to you.
Re:I Hate the News (2006) by austenallred on Wednesday March 18, 2015 @01:52PM (#9227348)
> I find it interesting that someone who is making a news site would say that most of the news is "bullshit and a worthless time suck."

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. 99.9% of news is garbage, .01% of news is valuable. I want to make it easy for people to get that .01%.

> Perhaps you should take Swartz advice and stop fighting to improve something that has so little value to you.

I think news is badly broken, and I'm trying to fix it. I don't understand what problem you have with that.

Re:I Hate the News (2006) by jklein11 on Thursday March 19, 2015 @10:52AM (#9232318)
But what about the other .09%?
Re:I Hate the News (2006) by sparkzilla on Wednesday March 18, 2015 @02:23PM (#9227567)
I suggest that you develop a thicker skin when dealing with feedback. Not everyone thinks what you are doing is helpful or beneficial. I can't speak for Swartz, but his article clearly says that he considered ALL news to be bad and even unhealthy, including your 0.1%. So to claim common ground, or to speak for him, is self-serving.

As for Grasswire, I think your solution to trying to improve the news won't work. As someone who previously ran a collaborative fact-checking site (which included a factcheck watch that monitored the main fact-checking sites), I think fact checking is over-rated. Most people are not really that interested in fact-checking the news, or in even reading fact checks. Fact checks themselves are in most cases just as biased as the reports they claim to fact check.

Nonetheless, I am genuinely interested to see how it works out for you.

Re:I Hate the News (2006) by WaxProlix on Wednesday March 18, 2015 @03:16PM (#9228002)
It seems to me that you could be a bit better at criticizing; you give this guy a hard time for having a thin skin, but you're being really antagonistic. I agree that his original post in this thread seemed a bit sales-pitch-y, and I resent that too, but you come off as being on full attack. Chill out a little, people will probably pay MORE attention, rather than writing you off as an angry competitor.
Re:I Hate the News (2006) by sparkzilla on Wednesday March 18, 2015 @03:56PM (#9228235)
I am not a competitor (see post above).
Re:I Hate the News (2006) by sparkzilla on Friday March 20, 2015 @12:13AM (#9236192)
For anyone reading this thread later, I should point out that my response above was to a now-deleted part of Austen's mail that accused me of stalking him on the net, and told me to stop commenting on his posts.