Re:Theo de Raadt on OpenSSL vulnerabilities coming on the 19th
by rjaco31 on Tuesday March 17, 2015 @10:31AM
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False sense of security? They provided the best SSL stack for years, and for free. Everybody knew for long that OpenSSL was a mess, and the harsh reality is that no one wanted to take care of it beside the few (almost benevolent) OpenSSL developers.
So now, the OpenBSD guys come in with their almighty attitude, while they knew about it for years and didn't bother to do anything about it before. No one wanted to do that job before Heartbleed, so yeah, it's really uncalled for to be that rude. We should all be grateful the OpenSSL team did what they did for so long.
Re:Theo de Raadt on OpenSSL vulnerabilities coming on the 19th
by rurban on Tuesday March 17, 2015 @11:24AM
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You must been living on an island over the last years.
"OpenSSL was the best SSL stack for years?" Best no, only fast.
PolarSSL (now "mbed TLS") is the best, to the best definition of best.
Still better than OpenSSL, which was known to be fast but insecure and poorly managed, are the stacks used the biggest clients:
* NSS used by Chrome, Mozilla, et al
* GnuTLS used by exim, GNOME, et al.
I'm not at all grateful to the OpenSSL team for using horrible software practices and putting their clients into danger.
Re:Theo de Raadt on OpenSSL vulnerabilities coming on the 19th
by _delirium on Tuesday March 17, 2015 @12:51PM
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Even the OpenBSD people seem to think it's a car worth keeping, just in need of an engine overhaul and better maintenance. They didn't throw out OpenSSL and write their own SSL library (like they have with other things), but rather forked it and cleaned it up.
Well, it gave the entire Internet a false sense of security for years, at least.
> …the hate just seems petty.
Have you read some of the cruft that the LibreSSL guys removed? OpenSSL has been a horrid mess. Sometimes you gotta admit that a Yugo is a really, really, really bad car.