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Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by vdnkh on Friday March 13, 2015 @03:55PM (#9199594)
>Literally caused me nausea

This is off topic but seriously? You actually felt like you were going to vomit due to a business tactic?

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by lectrick on Friday March 13, 2015 @04:03PM (#9199652)
I am a really opinionated/principled developer who cares deeply about my work.

I quit my last job because I could tell my boss had perverse incentives that he wouldn't admit to. I knew the codebase needed a refactor desperately and he insisted I work on something else (because he was leaving and didn't want to rock the boat). I can't work under those conditions. Turns out I was right... After I left, he announced he was leaving... right after his RSU's vested.

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by splintercell on Friday March 13, 2015 @04:34PM (#9199864)
I am a developer like you, but I feel that it is my moral responsibility to let an employer feel the pain of bad code.

When customers start to leave because they hate the way things work, that's when the business bow downs to a refactor.

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by lectrick on Friday March 13, 2015 @05:19PM (#9200125)
Dude you know YOU will take the heat in that case. NOT your boss. This is why I had to quit. If I can't stand behind my damn work and you not get out of my damn way, I'm leaving.

And if you've never clashed with your boss over ideological or philosophical issues (either productively or destructively), then I dare say you may not care very much about your work. (Or maybe, not far enough along in a career to have enough to say about it yet. I've been doing this for 18 years. I think that if you get to the point I got, where you care more about your work than your next paycheck... that that is a good thing.)

There were actually MANY times when I clashed productively with this guy. I respected him and he respected me. In fact I know that in the final battle we were both simply acting rationally. The directions were just completely at odds. And that is why I harbor no grudge or ill will towards that guy. Hell I'd probably have a beer with him still. I bet you that guy still respects me. It was just time to go.

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by Moru on Friday March 13, 2015 @05:13PM (#9200083)
But if you are the developer it's your fault, not the boss fault. This is why many leave before it bites them.
Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by cgag on Friday March 13, 2015 @04:24PM (#9199783)
I don't know about nausea but if that doesn't cause some kind of anger or disgust you've got problems.
Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by lectrick on Friday March 13, 2015 @06:10PM (#9200418)
I wouldn't say "problems"... just different motivations.

We can start an entire conversation about how some people care more about their careers than their paychecks and about how some people don't, and about how still OTHER people can't even afford to care more about their careers than their paychecks.

I don't judge. I just know how _I_ felt.

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by benihana on Friday March 13, 2015 @05:14PM (#9200091)
"Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?"
Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by wtetzner on Friday March 13, 2015 @05:57PM (#9200343)
I don't mind people going faster or slower than me as long as they're in the right lane.
Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by pjbrunet on Friday March 13, 2015 @04:27PM (#9199811)
Work and life purpose, not far from marriage and family in the hierarchy of things, depending on your beliefs.
Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by ergothus on Friday March 13, 2015 @05:59PM (#9200356)
It doesn't seem too unbelievable. I often feel physical symptoms from emotions, and judging from idioms (butterflys in the stomach, etc) it's not unusual.

That a business tactic based not on making a better product but instead hurting the market would shock someone unused to such matters seems perfectly reasonable. To feel you were supporting that would just make it worse.

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by ufo on Friday March 13, 2015 @06:20PM (#9200453)
While the parent post was probably referring to this figuratively, when we think of something repulsive we actually activate the same part of the limbic system in brain that we use to feel repulsed when we smell something rotten. In a way, our frontal cortex is hijacking the legacy "run away from smelly stuff" system instead of recreating it from scratch. This also extends to other systems as well: when someone is "hungry for success" they are using the same part of the brain that makes you hungry for food.
Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by lectrick on Friday March 13, 2015 @06:06PM (#9200398)
I was going to revisit use of that word but going back... yeah, it was seriously at least a little like that. I started to dread going into work. I perhaps wasn't full-on going to retch, but it was definitely inducing.

It was also my first job out of college and I was wet behind the ears and perhaps not aware that the real world can be a cold and harsh place.

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by idm on Friday March 13, 2015 @03:59PM (#9199629)
They didn't say it figuratively caused them nausea, so...
Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by bryondowd on Friday March 13, 2015 @04:27PM (#9199810)
Didn't you know? In the 21st century, the word 'literally' means figuratively. If he meant to mean literally, he would have said... well, I honestly don't know how to indicate that something is to be interpreted literally rather than figuratively now. What a world.
Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by nocman on Friday March 13, 2015 @08:23PM (#9200942)
If only there was someone to restore balance to the universe ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jh4Mpgbi4A

:-D

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by GFK_of_xmaspast on Friday March 13, 2015 @04:01PM (#9199641)
Ideology's a hell of a drug.