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Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by taeric on Friday March 13, 2015 @02:20PM (#9198850)
Majority of my family uses either Safari or IE. I would hazard this is not atypical. Any developer that is ignoring those is actually fairly anti-customer. Pretty much period.

Couching this in difficulties on the developers part is not a long term viable complaint.

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by RyanMcGreal on Friday March 13, 2015 @02:37PM (#9198990)
You can design to work on IE without designing to optimize for IE. As long as IE remains a single-platform browser, its standards extensions will remain a mostly-ignored niche.
Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by glesica on Friday March 13, 2015 @03:31PM (#9199432)
This is really what I was trying to get at. I used to work for a company that made a web app that needed to run on Windows and IE (it was very "enterprise").

The developers were virtually 100% Mac and Linux users. I don't think there was a single developer who actually used IE for anything other than testing features before code was merged. We definitely were not going to use IE-specific features, no matter how cool they were, because almost no one could actually run IE except in a crappy VM.

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by arnorhs on Friday March 13, 2015 @03:14PM (#9199304)
Just because they're your family, doesn't make them typical users. http://gs.statcounter.com/

Chrome is more widely used than IE.

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by taeric on Friday March 13, 2015 @04:01PM (#9199643)
Chrome may be more widely used, but you are still ignoring at least a fifth of the market.
Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by splintercell on Friday March 13, 2015 @04:41PM (#9199918)
Yeah and I have no moral responsibility to support them.

There might be more gold on the ocean floor than all the gold we have ever mined, but we will never get that gold because its too uneconomical for us to get.

Same goes here, the 5th of the market is a non-consumer market for us. Those days are gone where every computer with a browser was a potential consumer.

At this point we have to ask the question, if you are still using IE, what business assumptions can we make about you, and are you really worth the cost spent to go after you?

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by taeric on Friday March 13, 2015 @04:54PM (#9199969)
I never claimed this as a moral thing. Apologies if it felt that way.

Though, I will say you have not asked that last question. At least not in a meaningful. Otherwise, you would not be dominated by the larger fish in the ocean that do go after these customers.

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by woodman on Friday March 13, 2015 @03:02PM (#9199215)
> Couching this in difficulties on the developers part is not a long term viable complaint.

Maybe if IE was the only browser available on Windows, but it isn't.

"Developers, developers, developers, developers." - Steve Ballmer

Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by higherpurpose on Friday March 13, 2015 @03:36PM (#9199471)
Do you not care that much about your family? I've moved everyone I know and ever helped with the computers to Chrome. Why would you leave them on IE?!
Re:When IE gave us beautiful, fast touch interactions, and n... by taeric on Friday March 13, 2015 @04:02PM (#9199647)
I'd personally pick firefox, actually. Though, I have tried with them and they just don't care. More, I can't blame them. IE does the job well enough.

Also, I admit I do prefer a non-monoculture in the browser landscape.