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Re:Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers by strictnein on Wednesday March 11, 2015 @11:07AM (#9184433)
Yeah, it's all getting a little ridiculous. Every country has been spying on every other country since the beginning of countries. The leaks from Snowden, Greenwald, et al are becoming less about privacy violations and unjustified data collection and more about legitimate spying efforts, but they're still being met with breathless outrage here and elsewhere.

Also, are we really thinking "Grok" is some sort of identifying name/tag?

Re:Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers by rqebmm on Wednesday March 11, 2015 @11:11AM (#9184457)
The information on the Equations Group/TAO are coming from Kaspersky Labs via Ars Technica. They are unaffiliated with Snowden/Greewald/et al.

The leaks from Snowden that I've read thus far they do not mention anything about what TAO does. They are hinted at as the "big guns" you go talk to when you have actionable intelligence.

Re:Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers by LLWM on Wednesday March 11, 2015 @12:39PM (#9184955)
There was a large leak that included what was basically an internal catalog of TAO-created devices and modules. That's what they are crossreferencing the codenames against.
Re:Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers by Mikushi on Wednesday March 11, 2015 @01:42PM (#9185386)
Just because something has been done "Since the dawn of time" is not a valid reason to keep doing it whatsoever.

As a foreign citizen of the US (or UK) where this type of activity seems king, I'm threatened and consider these activities hostile and reason enough to not do any sort of business with US based companies or US residents.

There are no legitimate spying efforts, these agencies from day one have used and abused their positions to misdirect the public, start wars, spy on those they had no business spying, hack infrastructure on foreign land (which should be considered an act of war pure and simple), and the list goes on, including torture and murder.

I have no respect for these agencies and the work they do and they have no business existing.

Re:Further ties of NSA to Equation Group hackers by strictnein on Wednesday March 11, 2015 @04:00PM (#9186717)
Whatever country you're from is trying to do what the US is doing, they just aren't as good at it, so they likely are resorting to using hard techniques. Think lead pipes.