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Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets by r0h1n on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @06:43AM (#9176996)
What strikes me after this revelation is how unique the United States is, because:

(a) it has dozens of companies that create technology the rest of the world uses, and (b) it has a govt. that secretly works to undermine the technology developed by those companies.

You're not going to hear about many foreign govt's actively hacking their country's software products, simply because they could easily/secretly armtwist cos. into installing backdoors at the beginning. Take China for instance - do we think it needs to hack into, say, Huawei phones or Wechat? I don't think so.

As a foreigner, that is why this "fight" between US software cos. and its govt. is so fascinating. It's made possible through a unique combination of capital, freedom and history. And I hope it remains that way, for the sake of the rest of the world too.

Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets by flyryan on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @09:51AM (#9177676)
Your example isn't a particular good one. Huawei has been accused of backdooring their products for the Chinese government on numerous occasions, including presentations at DEFCON exposing those backdoors. There are also numerous cases of backdoors in Chinese cell phones.
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets by lucio on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @10:31AM (#9177880)
That's exactly what he's saying: "You're not going to hear about many foreign govt's actively hacking their country's software products, simply because they could easily/secretly armtwist cos. into installing backdoors at the beginning"
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets by lawnchair_larry on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @09:55AM (#9177700)
But his point was that China's government doesn't attack the company to get those.
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets by wavefunction on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @10:00AM (#9177736)
How do we know how any putative arrangement of this type has come to be?
Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets by task_queue on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @02:24PM (#9179577)
Not a peep was made while the intelligence community got in bed with tech companies. It was mutually beneficial and still is.

The only reason you're hearing about this is because it's good PR for Apple, after their intimate relations with the security apparatus were exposed.

Re:The CIA Campaign to Steal Apple's Secrets by _cudgel on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @05:18PM (#9180701)
Could you point us at that exposure? I'd like to read it.