Google seems to have broken email forwarding

Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by npsimons on Thursday March 05, 2015 @11:50AM (#9151915)

Don't do this. Seriously, don't. It's one thing if you never asked to get additional emails or you can't opt out, but if you signed up for it, at least put in the same amount of effort to get out of it first. If that fails, sure, then start marking as spam. Otherwise, you're feeding false positives into the system, thereby degrading it on purpose.

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by throwawayaway on Thursday March 05, 2015 @12:56PM (#9152504)

it should be opt in instead of opt out then shouldn't it? maybe you should be directing your passion at those who feel opt out is appropriate.

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by npsimons on Thursday March 05, 2015 @03:05PM (#9153457)

And that's why I said: "but if you signed up for it, at least put in the same amount of effort to get out of it first."

If you signed up, then you opted in. Don't be lazy and mark things you signed up for as spam. I'm not understanding how people get email from Amazon that aren't customers, and how customers can't turn off everything but confirmations, which I know is possible, because I have.

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by throwawayaway on Thursday March 05, 2015 @05:10PM (#9154194)

> how customers can't turn off everything but confirmations

I'm a customer, I consider that opt out. You don't? I signed up for amazon, not their bullshit emails. That you consider the situation opt in shows they have you trained well.

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by npsimons on Friday March 06, 2015 @10:47AM (#9157564)

Nice, ad hom, and I can't downvote your insulting comment! How about this: are you too lazy to uncheck a few check boxes? Because that's all it takes, and then you'll only get order and shipping confirmations.

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by throwawayaway on Friday March 06, 2015 @03:26PM (#9159364)

You shouldn't be insulted, I said you were trained well. Yes, I am too lazy to opt out of spam that should be opt in. Lazy like a fox.

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by marcosdumay on Thursday March 05, 2015 @12:29PM (#9152260)

Most Amazon email is spam. They send tons of promotional email to everybody that buys something there, with not even an opt-out option, and after you receive the emails, go to the opt-out link and uncheck it, they create new categories with you signed in by default. The GP is correct in marking amazon emails as spam, and I'll ask anybody that's considering stopping to keep marking it.

That said, this is no excuse for Google to mark their transactional emails as spam for people that clearly want to receive them. Google is just being lazy and doing a bad job. Even Yahoo gets that right, Google can do it too.

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by thaumasiotes on Thursday March 05, 2015 @12:50PM (#9152443)

Speaking as a person who frequently buys from Amazon, I've never experienced this. (No, it's not that promotional email from Amazon is going into my spam folder. I have to check my spam folder semi-regularly because gmail keeps flagging perfectly legitimate email as spam.) The mail I get from Amazon is order confirmations and a newsletter that I specifically signed up for. What's this promotional email that you're talking about?

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by throwawayaway on Thursday March 05, 2015 @05:37PM (#9154377)

http://imgur.com/yqsYyPY

of the 64 emails I have from them 50 are spam of this nature.

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by Tiksi on Friday March 06, 2015 @12:50AM (#9155783)

And if you open any of them, there is a convenient link to unsubscribe from them:

http://paste.click/fOAtyL

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by throwawayaway on Friday March 06, 2015 @04:30AM (#9156309)

Are you saying they are opt out? because I think that is what you are saying? Way to miss the point.

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by Tiksi on Friday March 06, 2015 @10:49AM (#9157592)

No I'm saying you opted in, and can now opt back out.

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by throwawayaway on Friday March 06, 2015 @03:27PM (#9159367)

didn't!

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by thaumasiotes on Friday March 06, 2015 @03:18AM (#9156124)

I can't help but notice that all of those come from amazon.co.uk. As evidence-free speculation, perhaps there's a problem at a lower level than "Amazon the company". This sort of thing would certainly help explain why some people are extremely upset about spam from "Amazon" and other people are taking the position "you're crazy".

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by npsimons on Friday March 06, 2015 @10:51AM (#9157600)

You signed up to be their customer, and you can turn these off. That they do this by default isn't ideal, but it's not spam - you have a business relationship with them.

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by throwawayaway on Friday March 06, 2015 @03:25PM (#9159355)

it is spam.

just because i signed up for amazon.com, doesn't mean they get to spam me crap because they've buried a 2pt font unsubscribe feature that may or may not work over the course of a few weeks.

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Re:Google seems to have broken email forwarding by npsimons on Thursday March 05, 2015 @03:01PM (#9153427)

I call bullshit. I'm a very regular Amazon customer, and I never ever receive anything but order and shipping confirmations from them (and the occasional interview offer). Can't remember if I did anything special (like uncheck a few boxes), but I'm very sure it's possible to not be spammed by them as my inbox is proof.

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