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Re:Machine intelligence, part 2 by DennisP on Monday March 02, 2015 @10:05PM (#9135882)
Researching friendly AI seems far more useful than government regulation. But it sounds like you and Ben are acknowledging that there is a potential problem here, which we should spend resources trying to prevent. That's a view quite different from the glib dismissals I've seen from some quarters.

As Ben said in your link, "once we have AGI systems that are massively smarter than people, they are going to do what they want to do, or what other powerful forces in the universe want them to do, but not necessarily what we want them to do." That's not the most reassuring comment ever.

Re:Machine intelligence, part 2 by AndrewKemendo on Monday March 02, 2015 @10:22PM (#9135928)
But it sounds like you and Ben are acknowledging that there is a potential problem here, which we should spend resources trying to prevent.

No one who has put any serious thought into AGI denies the possibility of an existential threat from it. The fact is though that we have absolutely no clue what chain of events would lead to that. In fact we have (almost) no clue what chain of events will lead to AGI in the first place.

The best way to know what will come from AGI is to start building it and seeing where the controls and capabilities are going. I personally think the AGI community needs to put more effort into a roadmap, which is done at every AGI conference to some degree. The problem though is that it's just too early and there just aren't enough researchers and funds to have any inkling about what is (are) going to be the best approaches to AGI. I could go all day and caveat everything, but the bottom line is, just start building because we are so far from it absolutely anything helps.

"once we have AGI systems that are massively smarter than people, they are going to do what they want to do, or what other powerful forces in the universe want them to do, but not necessarily what we want them to do." That's not the most reassuring comment ever.

Right. My personal proposition is:

AGI:Humans::Humans:Ants

Ben seems to share this approach. So to think we could control it after it's fifth iteration or so is silly. We also share the transhumanist philosophy which I think is still pretty fringe even within the tech community so I try not to go into that too much because it's just a whole ball of wax. I do think though that we need to have some of these conversations about what is next if human work is not necessary and later what we do if humanity itself is not at the top of the intelligence chain.