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Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by belorn on Friday February 27, 2015 @04:08AM (#9117917)
Restaurants can't prioritize white customers over black customers. They can't provide more flavorful, healthier food for white customers only, while giving rotten, old, bad food to black customers while charging the same price.

ISP's can however charge a higher price for faster speeds, same as a restaurant can charge a higher price for more flavorful and healthier food.

competition solve problems when every actor acts rational, and everyone competes fairly with the same moral and ethical values. As soon one of those two assumptions are wrong, competition stops to solve problems in the market.

Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by webXL on Friday February 27, 2015 @11:33AM (#9119708)
Your discrimination example is a straw man. Not applicable.

I'm talking about the menu a restaurant puts together based on the deals and choice they get from suppliers. One supplier may undercut the other. The restaurant may sign a long term deal with a supplier that isn't beneficial to the patrons. Competition is a check on that scenario, just as it is with any market where there is at least a handful of non-colluding sellers.

It's not rational to charge suppliers for priority? It's totally rational. They want more of your pipe. Ignoring the popular notions of fairness and "packet equality", why shouldn't they get charged more?

Competes fairly? How about just legally? A rule violation is a rule violation and should be settled in the justice system. The beauty of competition is that companies would rather undercut/offer a superior product over the competitors rather than waste time in court (or jail). You just need several competitors to keep them honest. It's a sufficient quantity of options, not the heavy-hand of the state, that ensures consumers are protected.

If anti-discrimination laws were repealed, do you honestly believe minorities and women would have their dining and golfing options cut by 50%? I bet it wouldn't even be 5%. And I bet white males would have their options cut by the same number. Popular opinion and competition help solve that particular market problem. Law definitely helps, but the assumption that competition only works when "everyone competes fairly with the same moral and ethical values" is flat out false. On the whole, the profit motive is much stronger than any superficial biases. Finding talented workers who share the exact same superficial biases, and not having someone like Jesse Jackson leading picket lines outside your business would both be damn near impossible.

Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by vcarl on Friday February 27, 2015 @01:14PM (#9120329)
I think an apt analogy would be if GFS[0] opened a chain of restaurants and started restricting deliveries to other restaurants, unless those restaurants paid an extra fee that the GFS restaurants weren't subject to.

[0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Food_Service

Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by webXL on Friday February 27, 2015 @01:23PM (#9120383)
Again, they could only do that if they had monopolistic control of the market. That would be a symptom of problem 2.
Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by vcarl on Friday February 27, 2015 @02:34PM (#9120801)
True, but the regional monopolies are pretty solid. Net neutrality doesn't fix the root problem, but it makes it harder for ISPs to flex their muscles.