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Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by daughart on Thursday February 26, 2015 @02:19PM (#9114678)
At what point does "prioritization" effectively become blocking? People navigate away from websites that take a long time to load or have advertisements.
Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by wlesieutre on Thursday February 26, 2015 @02:23PM (#9114722)
Not to mention that companies like Comcast have their foot in the online entertainment content game, and could very easily use paid prioritization to get an unfair advantage over competing services.
Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by droopybuns on Thursday February 26, 2015 @02:58PM (#9115035)
If you do a search for the net neutrality position of companies like AT&T, Verizon, Centurylink- you'll find plenty of material on their policy blogs on why this is a bad thing.

http://community.centurylink.com/regulatoryblog/ http://www.attpublicpolicy.com/broadband-classification/thou... http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/fccs-throwback-th...

It is extremely interesting that Comcast has made no public positions on title II neutrality.

Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by wlesieutre on Thursday February 26, 2015 @03:19PM (#9115193)
Interesting that Verizon and CenturyLink focused entirely on the fact that Title II regulations are old. I'm curious what the specific issues they have with it are; after all, there are plenty of old laws that still work fine.

It's become really hard to find any actual information or discussion though. Seems like every page I find is a bunch of bullet points either saying "Regulation will stop all innovation, drive ISPs out of business, and destroy the internet" or "If we don't regulate, Comcast and TWC will stop all innovation and destroy the internet." Sheesh...

Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by droopybuns on Thursday February 26, 2015 @02:52PM (#9114974)
Is your use of the Internet limited to websites?

If you play video games, use realtime video services like facetime, or use a VPN for mission critical work, do you really want your traffic flows to be identical to something that delivers content to a rendering engine?

Different traffic has different requirements & performance characteristics. From a pure engineering perspective, this is a very poor decision and treating all traffic equally provides artificial and often unnecessary constraints.

I have never experienced any situation where prioritization has effectively become blocking.

Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by tzs on Thursday February 26, 2015 @03:55PM (#9115419)
> Different traffic has different requirements & performance characteristics. From a pure engineering perspective, this is a very poor decision and treating all traffic equally provides artificial and often unnecessary constraints.

Banning paid prioritization does not stop the ISP from prioritizing traffic for engineering reasons.

What it bans is prioritizing traffic because a content provider paid for their traffic to be prioritized. For example, Amazon would not be able to pay to have Amazon video prioritized over Netflix video, and Netflix would not be able to pay to have Netflix video prioritized over Amazon video.

Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by novalis78 on Thursday February 26, 2015 @04:31PM (#9115642)
what would be so bad about that? doesn't that mean that we would have to "regulate" every successful business, because they could use their additional profit to gain "unfair market advantages"?
Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by tzs on Thursday February 26, 2015 @04:57PM (#9115827)
Suppose my ISP has oversold their bandwidth (which they all, of necessity, do). I'm trying to watch Amazon. My neighbor is trying to watch Netflix. My ISP doesn't have the bandwidth to give us both a good video experience, and so has to choose which of us will get inferior service.

Let's say I only watch video occasionally. My neighbor watches all the time. I consume maybe 5 GB a month. He consumes 1000 GB.

Me and my neighbor have the same tier of service, and are paying the ISP exactly the same amount.

You really don't have a problem if Netflix were allowed to pay my ISP to make sure that my neighbor's video watching gets priority, so he gets a great video performance, and mine sucks?

Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by novalis78 on Thursday February 26, 2015 @05:52PM (#9116134)
Thank you for the example. However, I thought that's quintessentially part of competition in a free market. Who would prevent netflix from offering a better service, make a deal with another ISP, allow other companies to offer products that fit your consumption and streaming habits better?
Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by exogen on Thursday February 26, 2015 @04:54PM (#9115803)
I actually can't tell if you're joking or not, because, well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_antitrust_law
Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by novalis78 on Thursday February 26, 2015 @05:54PM (#9116149)
I was not joking. Some additional consideration of how monopoly and deregulation plays into this discussion: http://youtu.be/5Z_nBhfpmk4?t=47m25s
Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by exogen on Thursday February 26, 2015 @08:31PM (#9116685)
Hmm, I watched from your starting timestamp for a good 10 minutes or so, and the point being made seemed to be that the government should have gone for ISP regulation sooner (or at least done something to prevent ISP monopolization sooner). Is that what you were getting at?
Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by MereInterest on Thursday February 26, 2015 @03:47PM (#9115355)
Different types of content have different requirements. Different content within the same type does not. This is not an issue of prioritizing VoIP over a large single file. This is an argument against prioritizing Company A's VoIP over Company B's VoIP.
Re:FCC Passes Strict Net Neutrality Regulations on 3-2 Vote by daughart on Thursday February 26, 2015 @03:41PM (#9115328)
Interesting, but I'm more concerned about prioritization of Skype over FaceTime because Microsoft pays Comcast more than Apple.