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Re:For Texas Instruments, Calculator Hackers Don't Add Up by jrockway on Thursday October 29, 2009 @09:31PM (#911331)
The good news is that this will never see the inside of a courtroom, as publishing factorizations of numbers is legal. So is doing whatever you want to your own hardware.

But anyway, how hard does the math problem have to be before it becomes illegal to solve? If my signing key is 4, would it be illegal for someone to say "Gentlemen, it has come to my attention that the number 4 is the product of 2 and 2."? Why?

How is 4 different from 68575999143494039 77654744967172758 17990411426461294 73261271699761332 96980951450542789 80888450430107555 07864648023040197 95402754670660318 614966266413770127 ? (I need to know what the law is before I can try to avoid breaking it.)

Also, is the mere act of looking up the factorization of this number in a table illegal? If not, what about using a program that has the number stored in a table? If not, what if that program lazily computes the factorization. Is strict evaluation legal, but not lazy evaluation?

How about if I have a friend that randomly wants to know the factorization of a number and I compute it in my head? What if it's for breaking a cryptosystem, but I don't know that, I just think it's a problem he's challenging me with? Who broke the law? What law was broken?

Anyway, I don't think you've thought this through. You used the word "cute" dismissively, though, which was very cute...

Re:For Texas Instruments, Calculator Hackers Don't Add Up by DougBTX on Friday October 30, 2009 @06:07AM (#911797)
> But anyway, how hard does the math problem have to be before it becomes illegal to solve?

Well, that is the point, isn't it. It is about intent, not the difficulty of the problem. Picking up a wallet is easy, taking someone's wallet is illegal.

But, the intent here: "use my own software on my own hardware", is (or should be) legal - all the rest is fluff.

Re:For Texas Instruments, Calculator Hackers Don't Add Up by ShardPhoenix on Thursday October 29, 2009 @10:41PM (#911425)
While I agree with the general principle you're espousing, from a legal point of view, it's clearly possible to decide that the probability that someone "just happened" to factor a sufficiently large number is low enough to determine beyond reasonable doubt that they had some ulterior motive in doing so.
Re:For Texas Instruments, Calculator Hackers Don't Add Up by eru on Friday October 30, 2009 @05:06AM (#911741)
> How is 4 different from 68575999143494039 77654744967172758 17990411426461294 73261271699761332 96980951450542789 80888450430107555 07864648023040197 95402754670660318 614966266413770127 ? (I need to know what the law is before I can try to avoid breaking it.)

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