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Re:Debian: Transition plan to systemd by default by Karunamon on Monday February 23, 2015 @10:22AM (#9094723)
I think the problem isn't systemd itself, the problem is "the init system maintained by Poettering et. al."

Give me the coolness of systemd maintained by someone that isn't impossible to work with, and i'd be all for it.

Re:Debian: Transition plan to systemd by default by EmanueleAina on Monday February 23, 2015 @04:12PM (#9097086)
Lennart has produced some "friction" in the past but now that he's been for such a long time on the other side, getting blamed and accused of every silly thing in the world I hope it has changed his ways a bit.

Truth to be told, the systemd community has been reported as one of the most welcoming and productive environment in the FLOSS ecosystem.

Re:Debian: Transition plan to systemd by default by Karunamon on Monday February 23, 2015 @04:27PM (#9097173)
I hear that from you and others, and then I read debacles like the Sievers/Torvalds thing on the mailing list (and some other instances of buffoonery linked to there), and immediately conclude that the "welcoming"-ness must only apply as long as you are following the current groupthink and not disagreeing with the BFDLs.

Heck, even that wouldn't be a thing if the people involved had the ability to publicly say "I was wrong on that" - but not even that happens that I've seen.

Re:Debian: Transition plan to systemd by default by EmanueleAina on Monday February 23, 2015 @05:39PM (#9097522)
Tbh I think in the Linus case the one using a less-than-welcoming tone wasn't Sievers. :)

Of course they have a strong vision, and popping up proposing something that has already been discussed to death and rejected won't be the most pleasing experience ever (it happens all the time here, I don't even want to imagine how tiresome it should feel for them).