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Re:Google faces Russia Android probe after Yandex protest by guard-of-terra on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @11:44AM (#9069417)
It is possible to unbundle Android, but if you are a phone manufacturer that makes Google Android phones, you get very strong pressure from Google if you try to also make non-Google Android phones.

So any large manufacturer can not try new innovative Android variants at fear of being cut off from Google Android.

Re:Google faces Russia Android probe after Yandex protest by ocdtrekkie on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @12:48PM (#9069832)
It's not just pressure. They outright cut you off. You cannot ship Google Androids and non-Google Androids. It's part of the MARA.
Re:Google faces Russia Android probe after Yandex protest by Oletros on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @02:18PM (#9070381)
> You cannot ship Google Androids and non-Google Androids.

Any source for this?

Re:Google faces Russia Android probe after Yandex protest by ocdtrekkie on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @04:32PM (#9071097)
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100008723963904447090045776523... and various other articles on the same incident. OHA members are required to agree not to ship devices running Android forks.
Re:Google faces Russia Android probe after Yandex protest by Oletros on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @04:40PM (#9071131)
That article doesn't say what you have claimed.

And, apart that Aliyun store had pirated Google apps, it was not an Android fork.

Still waiting those MADA clauses forbidding non Google Android

Re:Google faces Russia Android probe after Yandex protest by ocdtrekkie on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @05:11PM (#9071307)
MADA is confidential unfortunately. (Wonder why?)

And no, that incident had nothing to do with whether or not Google apps available in Aliyun's store were pirated. Acer was told they'd be removed from the OHA if they shipped Aliyun's fork of Android.

Re:Google faces Russia Android probe after Yandex protest by Oletros on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @05:17PM (#9071336)
> MADA is confidential unfortunately. (Wonder why?)

If MADA is so confidential why you talk about some clauses as facts? Or you have proofs of them or you're just inventing things

> cer was told they'd be removed from the OHA if they shipped Aliyun's fork of Android.

Second time, Aliyun is not an Android fork

Why do you talk about things you clearly don't know? Are you just spreading FUD because of your hate against some companies?

Re:Google faces Russia Android probe after Yandex protest by ogurechny on Wednesday February 18, 2015 @06:03PM (#9071510)
It has already been discussed even in the mainstream news quite some time ago: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-...

Presumably (judging by comments on Russian websites), Yandex has got an agreement to include (or included) in the report documents that show you have to play by Google's rules and install Google services on every model in every region of the world once you signed the service agreement, or (even better for them) direct prohibition to pre-install Yandex services.

Re:Google faces Russia Android probe after Yandex protest by Oletros on Thursday February 19, 2015 @12:55AM (#9072641)
Yes, I know that has been discussed, but there is no article (and not even in the Ars one) were it is said that an OEM is forbidden to launch a non Google Android device like the op is repeatedly claiming
Re:Google faces Russia Android probe after Yandex protest by Oletros on Thursday February 19, 2015 @02:13PM (#9076183)
Apart that what the OHA forbids are forks that doesn't pass the ACT, Aliyun was not an Android fork

Please, stop talking about what you clearly don't know.

Still waiting those clauses that you post as facts. Can you link to them or not?

Re:Google faces Russia Android probe after Yandex protest by ocdtrekkie on Thursday February 19, 2015 @01:55PM (#9076034)
Again: See the Acer/Alibaba incident.
Re:Google faces Russia Android probe after Yandex protest by ocdtrekkie on Thursday February 19, 2015 @01:55PM (#9076037)
The case may actually let us see a new version of the MADA if they can require it be in public court records.