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Re:Elementary OS Freya Beta 2 by nickysielicki on Saturday February 14, 2015 @11:18AM (#9049976)
The elementary devs are idiots for not thinking about what they wanted to get out of this project in the first place.

Let's take a look at other open source monetizers:

* Red Hat - Provide enterprise support.

* Canonical - Provide dumb cloud services and enterprise support

* Docker - Provide enterprise support.

Where does Elementary fit into any of these models? Oh it doesn't? Then what in god's name were you thinking? And then they go on to insult 99%+ of their userbase for using their software without paying? But that was never implied as part of the deal! When I first heard of Elementary I thought of it as something much like Linux Mint... A Ubuntu install with a non-gnome DE as default. Actually, I still very much see it as that... That's all it fucking is.

So when Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Linux Mint, and Ubuntu all exist entirely for free, and this similar product (but more hipster) comes along, why were the "cheaters", expected to know that this one intended to charge them?

I'm toying with the idea right now of registering geteos.com and linking to images of Elementary without an option to pay just as a "Fuck You" to these guys.

Re:Elementary OS Freya Beta 2 by psgbg on Saturday February 14, 2015 @11:36AM (#9050017)
Sorry I don't follow you for the first part.

>So when Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Linux Mint, and Ubuntu all exist entirely for free, and this similar product (but more hipster) comes along, why were the "cheaters", expected to know that this one intended to charge them?

Look I don't like the "cheater" part more than you do yet I consider a bad way to express what they intended to say and not a mere insult.

Now what Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Linux Mint, and Ubuntu do as their "marketing" (to say a word) policy is up to them. But if you read my comment what I try to say is the same for them. Using an open source project without helping them if you can is take advantage of the system.

>I'm toying with the idea right now of registering geteos.com and linking to images of Elementary without an option to pay just as a "Fuck You" to these guys.

You consider them as idiots/jerks and want to do that, and possibly running against the risk to be sued for trademark infringement or whatever... man you have balls.

Re:Elementary OS Freya Beta 2 by psgbg on Saturday February 14, 2015 @12:59PM (#9050226)
After reading what said tree_of_item, I think tree_of_item is right.

>I'm toying with the idea right now of registering geteos.com and linking to images of Elementary without an option to pay just as a "Fuck You" to these guys.

That does not do any favor to anyone. Please put the bar of the discussion a little higher. You have right to be upset by their wording use.

You don't like it expose your arguments. If you are going to "fuck" every open project for their mistakes... gosh. Today many people are complaining that the open source community is getting toxic of haters, people threatening, trolls and other people doing bad stuff.

HN is full of smart people, at least if you want to discus acts like that do it elsewhere.

Re:Elementary OS Freya Beta 2 by anonbanker on Saturday February 14, 2015 @03:33PM (#9050704)
> So when Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Linux Mint, and Ubuntu all exist entirely for free

it's funny that you mentioned distributions that all require funding from Canonical (or other companies) in order to survive. You would've been better off using Arch, Gentoo, Debian, etc.

Re:Elementary OS Freya Beta 2 by nickysielicki on Saturday February 14, 2015 @04:17PM (#9050817)
There is no pure distribution that is free from any funding besides maybe Debian+Hurd.

I made a point to pick distributions that are merely a base Ubuntu install strapped with different default desktop environments because that's all that ElementaryOS is.

Re:Elementary OS Freya Beta 2 by tree_of_item on Saturday February 14, 2015 @11:48AM (#9050052)
Please take a minute to realize that you're part of the problem.