Re:Women of Color Working in STEM Fields Are Frequently Mist...
by m52go on Thursday February 12, 2015 @04:43PM
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If I may, I want to comment on the name of this media company. It seems akin to starting another one called Real N!gg@s in order to promote equal rights for blacks. Or something. I don't know.
Some might call it a publicity stunt, but I call it bad taste.
And I don't see this statistic as anything more than insignificant. As an Indian, I've been mistaken as a worker at hardware stores a couple of times.
So what?
This is nothing more than a phony attempt at intensifying race-based bigotry.
That's perhaps even more tasteless than the name of the publication.
Re:Women of Color Working in STEM Fields Are Frequently Mist...
by tjic on Thursday February 12, 2015 @04:46PM
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Heck, I'm a white male, and I've gotten mistaken as en employee at the big box hardware store dozens of times.
I note that the article doesn't compare the experience of women of color versus any other demographic.
As Lord Kelvin said: "“When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarely, in your thoughts advanced to the stage of science.”
Re:Women of Color Working in STEM Fields Are Frequently Mist...
by jpwright on Thursday February 12, 2015 @05:11PM
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What about this makes you jump to defend the status quo?
It's obviously a far more hurtful experience when it happens somewhere you actually work, and when you're already a minority in a white male dominated environment. But I don't really think the point of this is to suggest we get better at identifying janitors. It's to point out a symptom that suggests a larger problem.
The report does compare the same figures to white and Asian-American women, which reported the same experience at 32.4% and 22.3% respectively. I'll leave it to you to find figures for men (they may not exist, for a reason).
> 48% of Black women and 46.9% of Latinas report having been mistaken for administrative or custodial staff.
But obviously, the assumption still reflects really poorly! :/
Some might call it a publicity stunt, but I call it bad taste.
And I don't see this statistic as anything more than insignificant. As an Indian, I've been mistaken as a worker at hardware stores a couple of times.
So what?
This is nothing more than a phony attempt at intensifying race-based bigotry.
That's perhaps even more tasteless than the name of the publication.
I note that the article doesn't compare the experience of women of color versus any other demographic.
As Lord Kelvin said: "“When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarely, in your thoughts advanced to the stage of science.”
It's obviously a far more hurtful experience when it happens somewhere you actually work, and when you're already a minority in a white male dominated environment. But I don't really think the point of this is to suggest we get better at identifying janitors. It's to point out a symptom that suggests a larger problem.
The report does compare the same figures to white and Asian-American women, which reported the same experience at 32.4% and 22.3% respectively. I'll leave it to you to find figures for men (they may not exist, for a reason).
If you're interested, you should read the full report. It's based on a survey of 500 female scientists. It's not just anecdotal evidence. http://www.toolsforchangeinstem.org/double-jeopardy-report-v...