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Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by paganel on Thursday February 12, 2015 @11:17AM (#9039444)
Exactly. You get to pay for your very stupid mistakes, especially those that affect other people (like this lady's tweet did).
Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by ripdog on Thursday February 12, 2015 @11:28AM (#9039529)
She paid about a hundred thousand times over for that mistake. Is that fair? Is that justice? No, it's a mob lynching. This is indefensible.
Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by tjic on Thursday February 12, 2015 @11:25AM (#9039496)
How, exactly, did her tweet affect people?

...unless you standard for "affect" covers all communication. In which case, you're saying "People should pay for the sin of expressing an opinion or making a joke".

...and perhaps you are.

Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by paganel on Thursday February 12, 2015 @11:31AM (#9039564)
> How, exactly, did her tweet affect people?

Have you ever been the victim or racism? If not, let's say you're in an open group, you're of a certain nationality (let's call it X), and some other member of that group starts making racist or xenophobic jokes about your race/nationality.

By mistake my skin is white (so I've never been the victim of racist jokes/looks, even though my brother, whose skin is browner, has been a victim of said racist jokes), but being from a not-so-important-East-European country I've been the victim of xenophobic remarks/jokes coming from people "with the best intentions". They always, I mean always, hurt. It also hurts me why I have to explain on HN why racist jokes hurt people. I've been in this community for lots of years and never thought I'd see this day.

Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by ptaipale on Thursday February 12, 2015 @12:09PM (#9039864)
> By mistake my skin is white (so I've never been the victim of racist jokes/looks ...

Are you serious?

That white people couldn't be victims of racism? That only white people can be racist? You've never met even just funny looks? Then you haven't been out to the world too much.

I'm a big, white European, and when I was in China, I could hear myself being referred to as "laowai" "or dabizi". I could have gotten mad, because yes indeed by nose is big by Chinese standards and this is a reference to my racial features, but I chose to carry on. The people mostly meant nothing bad. Even the ones that actually maybe thought bad of me - possibly associating me with Western colonialism, of which I or my country were quite innocent - did nothing bad to me, so I let it be.

When our family went to the zoo, we were looking at the pandas, and a hundred people were looking at us (Look! Three white kids!). Very slow looks. It may be a bit awkward, but needs to be tolerated. I was just as much in awe when I saw the first black person in my life.

But perhaps I can do this because there was nothing I could gain by acquiring a victim identity. I'll leave getting mad to a time when someone actually tries to insult me.

Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by rblstr on Thursday February 12, 2015 @11:40AM (#9039657)
Could you point the racism out in this tweet?
Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by venomsnake on Thursday February 12, 2015 @01:10PM (#9040222)
As a fellow Eastern European ... man up. Really. Taking offense is the stupidest thing to do.
Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by Delmania on Thursday February 12, 2015 @11:24AM (#9039491)
Outside of offending people, how exactly did her tweet impact anyone else?
Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by karangoeluw on Thursday February 12, 2015 @11:30AM (#9039545)
Offending people who might have lost a close family member to AIDS you mean?
Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by paganel on Thursday February 12, 2015 @11:40AM (#9039649)
There's no use in trying to explain. I'm being downvoted to hell for trying to explain why racist jokes are not ok, with replies like "this is just an off-color joke" or "do you know what racism means?" . I'm pretty dissapointed in this community, been here for lots of years and thought that generally speaking people in here would be more open-minded. But the minute you start to explain why making jokes about one's race or incurable disease is not ok you realize you're in the wrong group.
Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by ripdog on Thursday February 12, 2015 @11:49AM (#9039720)
It's a weird, weird world when "open minded" means "likes to participate in mob justice".

And if you understand the tweet, you'd understand the she was making fun of ditzy white girls who naively assume that white people can't get AIDS. It's a caricature of racism, not racism itself.

Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by tomp on Thursday February 12, 2015 @12:19PM (#9039919)
In all honesty, you did a really poor job explaining why racist jokes are bad. You're being downvoted because (1) you assume that her joke was racist, and (2) you assume that racist jokes are bad (without showing understanding or "open-mindedness" about people who think otherwise).

Personally, I disagree on both counts. I like offensive jokes of all kinds (I mean, if they're actually funny). Coming from a very homogeneous Central European country, I have never been on either side of oppression (other than being bullied in school for being weak, small, smart geek), so I definitely don't have your experience of being "hurt" by jokes, but your experience doesn't translate into a universally-applicable moral/rational argument that racist jokes are bad. However, even if I agreed with you and would personally dislike racist jokes, I would still strongly oppose restrictions or censorship on racist/offensive jokes, to avoid situations like the recent Charlie Hebdo attack.

Re:How One Stupid Tweet Blew Up Justine Sacco’s Life by trelltron on Thursday February 12, 2015 @11:58AM (#9039791)
How, exactly, did it affect other people?