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Re:Starting today, wireless carriers have to unlock your phone by coldpie on Thursday February 12, 2015 @08:40AM (#9038699)
I'm fairly clueless about this topic, but I thought "unlocking" simply meant you can install a different OS if you want.
Re:Starting today, wireless carriers have to unlock your phone by wyldfire on Thursday February 12, 2015 @09:49AM (#9038959)
Initially I'd have agreed, but it seems more subtle than that.

Let's read from Verizon's "Postpay Device Unlocking Policy"

> ... We do not lock our 4G LTE devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier.

So I take this as "we don't have a subsidy lock that prevents you from moving this phone to another LTE vendor."

Indeed, they clarify later:

> “Unlocking” a device refers only to disabling software that would prevent a consumer from attempting to activate a device designed for one carrier’s network on another carrier’s network, even if that network is technologically compatible.

But these phones do ship with signed bootloaders, and it doesn't sound like Verizon provides the mechanism to replace it.

It doesn't sound like this re-legitimizes 3rd party businesses who offer unlocking services. TFA refers to FCC negotiations with carriers, and not the LoC changing policy. I'll wager that's the only thing that would let you install your own OS.

Re:Starting today, wireless carriers have to unlock your phone by bri3d on Thursday February 12, 2015 @02:15PM (#9040708)
No, "unlocking" in this context refers to the baseband lock which prevents your phone from joining another carrier's network. This form of lock vastly predates phones with customizable OSes and was originally in place to prevent customers from receiving a subsidized phone, re-selling it for use on another network, and then breaking their contract, or trying to arbitrage a margin between early termination fees and remaining phone cost.

This guidance requires that phone companies allow their phones to join networks they are technically compatible with (i.e., have the radios and baseband support for). It's generally unrelated to the OS or bootloader, as this form of lock is often implemented at the baseband level.

The issue is that phones can be "unlocked" (made able to join another network at the baseband level) but non-configurable at the OS level, barring features requiring OS configuration, like MMS, from functioning. This doesn't seem to be specific enough guidance to prevent phone carriers from playing this trick, as they can continue to provide technically unlocked phones that don't work properly on other networks.

This doesn't really change much these days as the US market is gradually moving towards a financed (rather than subsidized) phone sales model where early termination fee arbitrage isn't possible and collections for broken contracts are more conventional. In general, carriers have less of an incentive to carrier lock their phones than they used to. Plus, some carriers (like Verizon) are already required to supply their LTE phones unlocked due to agreements made to acquire spectrum licenses, so this doesn't really affect them.

Re:Starting today, wireless carriers have to unlock your phone by coldpie on Thursday February 12, 2015 @03:13PM (#9041083)
Thanks for the explanation. I guess the confusion comes from "locked baseband" and "locked bootloaders." Unlocking is ambiguous without enough context or domain knowledge.