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Re:Ask HN: Is AI useful in industry? by mahmud on Monday October 26, 2009 @01:38PM (#903676)
Are you kidding me? Statistical AI is the hottest thing in computing now. You might have heard of it as "Machine Learning".

However, you wont see any of the human emulators that were being conjured up in the 70s and 80s. The new AI is in the business of synthesizing massive data into intelligence.

Re:Ask HN: Is AI useful in industry? by pmichaud on Monday October 26, 2009 @02:26PM (#903791)
Right, AI isn't recognizable as the Scifi thing you might have in mind... it's automatic financial trading software, or it's robotic path finding or target acquisition.
Re:Ask HN: Is AI useful in industry? by roundsquare on Monday October 26, 2009 @02:31PM (#903811)
Thanks for the answers. I guess I was really asking if anyone is actually using the techniques.

E.g. in finance, I'm under the impression most people still use standard pricing models as opposed to something like an ANN (or other statistical learning algorithm). The reason that I was told is that people are afraid of using some generic black box and instead prefer something like black-scholes (or whatever) that has an explanation they can understand.

Re:Ask HN: Is AI useful in industry? by kleinsch on Monday October 26, 2009 @10:53PM (#904689)
Online advertising uses all kinds of machine learning.

When companies are running billions of impressions across multiple ad networks and using different creative variants, it takes serious algorithms to cut through the noise and find the inventory that's performing well. It's a tricky problem because typically you'll get tiny click-through rates, meaning you're looking to group a few points of data among millions of impressions.

Contextual analysis (figuring out the context of the page where the ad appears) is a big deal now also. That's a lot of natural language processing on some of the most diverse (read: difficult) content available.

I happen to work for a company that does both of these. :)

Re:Ask HN: Is AI useful in industry? by roundsquare on Tuesday October 27, 2009 @01:10AM (#904895)
Very cool. Do you know any good resources on what kinds of algorithms are used?
Re:Ask HN: Is AI useful in industry? by wglb on Monday October 26, 2009 @06:15PM (#904284)
This is akin to looking for your lost keys under a lamppost even though you lost them in the alley--the light is better under the lamppost.
Re:Ask HN: Is AI useful in industry? by roundsquare on Tuesday October 27, 2009 @01:12AM (#904899)
Heh. I'm assuming your calling black-scholes the lamp post and the more generic technique the alley.

I suppose it comes from having to justify what your doing to higher up managers who don't have the time or inclination to learn something new. I mean, if you can't explain it in 30 sec they won't like it.

Re:Ask HN: Is AI useful in industry? by wglb on Tuesday October 27, 2009 @09:11AM (#905336)
Quick reference: http://www.amazon.com/Mis-behavior-Markets-Benoit-Mandelbrot...

He did a paper on the price of cotton in exchanges obeying a 1/6 power law. When confronted with this, the powers that be said, effectively, "we don't have the tools for that" and didn't use any different tools than they were using to measure risk. See The Black Swan for more examples.

Markets don't fit normal distributions.

Re:Ask HN: Is AI useful in industry? by wlievens on Monday October 26, 2009 @02:51PM (#903870)
Robotic path finding is about 50% of "the scifi thing you have in mind".

I agree with your sentiment though.