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Re:Samsung's smart TVs are inserting unwanted ads into users... by astrodust on Wednesday February 11, 2015 @09:27AM (#9032972)
Every "Smart TV" I've seen is like a dumbed down version of a real device like a Chromecast or an Apple TV.

How do you make something so brutally garbage, anyway? Some of these TVs take so long to register a button press you have to wonder if they aren't using a 6502 inside to power the thing.

The only experience that's worse is those set-top boxes the cable companies provide you with. The Amiga had near flawless, real-time response and these things refresh at, maybe, a few frames per second.

Re:Samsung's smart TVs are inserting unwanted ads into users... by userbinator on Wednesday February 11, 2015 @08:09PM (#9036776)
Some of these TVs take so long to register a button press you have to wonder if they aren't using a 6502 inside to power the thing.

Amusingly enough, my completely dumb pair of computer monitors (also made by Samsung, but before they started making things "smart") has a 6502-based SoC driving the OSD, and there is no perceptible lag at all.

These "smart" TVs seem to be based on ARM SoCs running at few hundred MHz to 1GHz+ and probably have more processing power than a high-end desktop PC in the mid 2000s.

I think it's all because of the software - tons of bloat.

Re:Samsung's smart TVs are inserting unwanted ads into users... by asd on Wednesday February 11, 2015 @11:10AM (#9033637)
What's worse is when you do not think that the Smart TV registered your button press and you send another after a second or two. Then you'll get two keypresses queued up and fire at once and then you have exited your app/screen/etc. Yay. DirecTV's apps (even on their latest Genie DVR) are the worst - you hit the right button and wait about 8 seconds for the apps to load. Why even bother? Someone surely tests these things and sees the laggish behavior and just say, "Fuck it! Good enough! Ship it and never update it!"
Re:Samsung's smart TVs are inserting unwanted ads into users... by rnovak on Wednesday February 11, 2015 @01:07PM (#9034402)
Most of the time, in my opinion, and from my experience, is that non-functional requirements are never defined from their business analysts, and it's the same in many places.

A lot of places won't define performance requirements, as it's not their forethought to do so. They care about functional requirements, and if it meets those, then in their mind, their work is done. I've worked in several places (big names, too), that don't define non-functional stuff until after their beta is shipped and people start complaining.

Re:Samsung's smart TVs are inserting unwanted ads into users... by omega_rythm on Wednesday February 11, 2015 @10:00AM (#9033152)
> The only experience that's worse is those set-top boxes the cable companies provide you with.

I don't know about the American market. Over here (France), set-top boxen aren't so bad. And there are regular software upgrade; some of them even include games and apps.

Re:Samsung's smart TVs are inserting unwanted ads into users... by ChrisClark on Wednesday February 11, 2015 @11:54AM (#9033895)
In Canada it's like he said though. Press a button, there is just enough of a delay to wonder if you pressed it hard enough, then it starts moving... slowly.
Re:Samsung's smart TVs are inserting unwanted ads into users... by omega_rythm on Thursday February 12, 2015 @11:05AM (#9039379)
It may have to do that often actions on set top boxes are related to accessing content, for which the software has to check permissions; these are usually embedded in the stream (think mumultiplexed), and the decoder needs to receive the frames before being able to extract the content and display it. Cable network has very high latency (compared to fiber or adsl).

If some of the credential checks are stored in a separate device (dongle, smartcard ), then it could take even longer.