Re:Who says RSS is dead ?
by robotron on Saturday October 24, 2009 @09:04AM
(#900424)
Who is actually saying RSS/Atom is dead? I use it heavily - via Google Reader. I even have feeds of certain Twitter users, bypassing the need to follow via Twitter.
Re:Who says RSS is dead ?
by mattyb on Saturday October 24, 2009 @09:21AM
(#900432)
Wow, I thought I was the only person that does this. Google Reader makes viewing older tweets much, much easier than twitter.com (or ÜberTwitter for that matter).
Re:Who says RSS is dead ?
by greyman on Saturday October 24, 2009 @12:45PM
(#900640)
I've got a more interesting question: Is RSS the best technology for delivering daily reading?
I tended to think so and I have been an avid user of Google Reader, which diligently delivers a new stuff to read every day.
But after some time I discovered one negative side of feed reading - namely, it fosters the attachment to always check whether there is something new to read. For example, I go through all my feeds, and then one hour later I again would check whether there is something new. Of course, everything can become an addiction when one does it too much, but in case of RSS, it seems to me that it is something innate in this technology. Simply, the way it works it might create a feeling of "obligation" to clear all unread feeds.
Currently, I am working on developing another system, which would deliver interesting stuff to me more efficiently and my ultimate goal is to get rid of feed reader. For same websites I read daily like HN, I am now using old-fashioned bookmarks.
Then, there are some other areas I want to follow, for example, "minimalism". Now, instead of subscribing myself to 10 feeds about minimalism and check them several times per day, I am now using twitter search and services like Tweetmeme. The rationale behind this is, that if someone writes something worth reading, it will almost sure be retweeted. At least in my case, I think the future is to use some service built on twitter to find what is being tweeted, without being psychologically shackled by "subscriptions".
Re:Who says RSS is dead ?
by jacquesm on Saturday October 24, 2009 @12:27PM
(#900618)
RSS is alive and kicking, plenty of really big applications depend on it for their functioning. FB, Google News, Twitter and a whole pile of others would be unthinkable without RSS as a service underneath to take care of a good bit of the 'plumbing'.
RSS is not very 'sexy', but then again neither is a transistor.
Re:Who says RSS is dead ?
by briansmith on Saturday October 24, 2009 @09:42AM
(#900450)
Atom was created because the RSS people refused to fix the ambiguities with RSS. Almost immediately after Atom was finalized, the RSS people changed their mind and fixed the big issues. So now there's really not much reason to choose Atom instead of RSS. Atom ended up being a big waste of time; actually, it wasn't a mere waste of time, it is actually harmful. Now everybody who deals with feeds has to deal with 4 kinds of RSS + Atom, instead of just 4 kinds of RSS.
but the most important, for me, is that Atom is a group effort under the IETF rather than an ad-hoc spec in one person's head. All other benefits are the result of that.
btw it has gained more importance after pubsubhubbub and rsscloud.
I tended to think so and I have been an avid user of Google Reader, which diligently delivers a new stuff to read every day.
But after some time I discovered one negative side of feed reading - namely, it fosters the attachment to always check whether there is something new to read. For example, I go through all my feeds, and then one hour later I again would check whether there is something new. Of course, everything can become an addiction when one does it too much, but in case of RSS, it seems to me that it is something innate in this technology. Simply, the way it works it might create a feeling of "obligation" to clear all unread feeds.
Currently, I am working on developing another system, which would deliver interesting stuff to me more efficiently and my ultimate goal is to get rid of feed reader. For same websites I read daily like HN, I am now using old-fashioned bookmarks.
Then, there are some other areas I want to follow, for example, "minimalism". Now, instead of subscribing myself to 10 feeds about minimalism and check them several times per day, I am now using twitter search and services like Tweetmeme. The rationale behind this is, that if someone writes something worth reading, it will almost sure be retweeted. At least in my case, I think the future is to use some service built on twitter to find what is being tweeted, without being psychologically shackled by "subscriptions".
RSS is not very 'sexy', but then again neither is a transistor.
It's a great example of why competition is good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_%28standard%29#Atom_compar...
but the most important, for me, is that Atom is a group effort under the IETF rather than an ad-hoc spec in one person's head. All other benefits are the result of that.