Is your programming language unreasonable?

Re:Is your programming language unreasonable? by geocar on Thursday February 05, 2015 @09:26AM (#9003350)

These few examples don't need to make the case that "most of the world's programs can be replaced by programs of no more than one screenful", because again that's your strawman, and not my argument. People pay millions of dollars for kx's database so it's not by any reasonable definition mere "exercises", and it's certainly not "vastly larger than a screenful".

I'm writing this way; I'm finding value writing this way, and at the moment I'm making no other claims other than the shortness of a program is the single best indicator of correctness, performance, and "reasonableness". It's certainly more important than a "types" argument.

While your best counterargument against short programs is inertia, suggesting we shouldn't leave the trees isn't helpful. You should try it. You might like it.

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Re:Is your programming language unreasonable? by mannykannot on Monday February 09, 2015 @07:11AM (#9020755)

"at the moment I'm making no other claims other than the shortness of a program is the single best indicator of correctness, performance, and 'reasonableness.'"

If you had not strayed from that position, I would not have joined the discussion. I happen to agree that there is an inordinate amount of unnecessary complexity in the present code base, but I think it is an orthogonal issue to that being raised by the original article. That is because it seems to me that the main causes of this introduced complexity is developers' poor understanding of the requirements they are trying to satisfy, together with a trial-and-error approach to programming, rather than the language features covered by the original article.

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