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Re:The Ultimate Failure of Moneyball by jfager on Friday October 23, 2009 @02:13PM (#899302)
Yeah, and Joe Blanton's in the World Series for the 2nd year in a row, and Nick Swisher's a game away. What's your point? The list of players from Moneyball isn't exactly embarassing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moneyball:_The_Art_of_Winning_a...

One of the main reasons Jeremy Brown was featured so prominently in the book was because he was such a long shot to make the majors but was being drafted anyways. He was also doing pretty well in the farm system his first two seasons before injuring his thumb. It's sports - lots of players, regardless of how promising or hyped they are, have to leave the game for a wide range of reasons. Jeremy Brown's career is not at all evidence that Moneyball's premise was flawed.

Re:The Ultimate Failure of Moneyball by mechanical_fish on Friday October 23, 2009 @03:03PM (#899411)
Yes, it seems to me that the lesson of this article is that the author still does not understand statistics, even though he has read a famous book-length Michael Lewis treatise on the subject.

Sabermetrics isn't clairvoyance. No matter how good your data, you still have to play the game.

Meanwhile, while we're playing the anecdotal-data game, those of us in Boston are pretty happy with Billy Beane and company's predictions about Kevin Youkilis.

Re:The Ultimate Failure of Moneyball by jfager on Friday October 23, 2009 @03:27PM (#899454)
Bissinger's a really good sportswriter when he's focused on his subject in his own voice, but he's definitely a jock, and he's got a history of being a jackass to other writers:

http://deadspin.com/385770/bissinger-vs-leitch

Re:The Ultimate Failure of Moneyball by tptacek on Friday October 23, 2009 @02:26PM (#899325)
All I can say is that that is a good point.