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Re:Windows 10: Re-Crappifying Windows 8 by jagermo on Saturday January 31, 2015 @01:43PM (#8977563)
Good points and well written (not the usual troll rant).

However what I dread most are the vendors and their crapware bundeling programs. Uch.

Re:Windows 10: Re-Crappifying Windows 8 by Filligree on Saturday January 31, 2015 @01:47PM (#8977578)
However, here's the thing: Windows are useful. An UI which pretends you shouldn't use them isn't good for anything complicated, when you use more than one application at a time.

Hierarchical start menus are also useful, for that matter.

Re:Windows 10: Re-Crappifying Windows 8 by dragonwriter on Saturday January 31, 2015 @02:12PM (#8977662)
> However, here's the thing: Windows are useful.

I'm increasingly convinced that overlapping Windows are not particularly useful (they are better than one-thing-maximized-is-the-only-option), but tiled windows are very useful.

Re:Windows 10: Re-Crappifying Windows 8 by Rusky on Saturday January 31, 2015 @02:34PM (#8977745)
I'm torn between tiled and overlapping windows. A lot of the time I just don't have a big enough screen to go fully tiled, because it forces things to squish when I would rather just keep one partially visible underneath (e.g. a browser window, a text editor, and a terminal).

One thing that makes overlapping windows infinitely nicer for me is a feature in a lot of Linux WMs where window borders "catch" on other windows and the edge of the screen when being moved or resized. That, and having a key to move windows from anywhere, rather than just the titlebar.

edit: And focus-follows-mouse/x-mouse.

Re:Windows 10: Re-Crappifying Windows 8 by Zancarius on Saturday January 31, 2015 @02:44PM (#8977792)
> One thing that makes overlapping windows infinitely nicer for me is a feature in a lot of Linux WMs where window borders "catch" on other windows and the edge of the screen when being moved or resized. That, and having a key to move windows from anywhere, rather than just the titlebar.

I also like the feature of using the scroll wheel to change window position (above/below), especially if I'm browsing and have a few related windows open on a desktop. I didn't realize how much I missed the feature until I tried Plasma 5 on KDE briefly (it has it, too, but it didn't migrate my configuration).

Re:Windows 10: Re-Crappifying Windows 8 by Rusky on Saturday January 31, 2015 @03:23PM (#8977965)
Ah, yes. I should have included focus-follows-mouse, that's pretty crucial to how I work too.

There's actually a registry setting to enable it on Windows, but so many things are so completely unaware of it in their design that it breaks a lot of stuff.

Re:Windows 10: Re-Crappifying Windows 8 by daigoba66 on Saturday January 31, 2015 @02:27PM (#8977717)
That's a really interesting observation. Coincidentally, if you look at pre-Win3.1 it only supported tiled windows. Tiling support has always been there since, but largely ignored until Win7 gave us Aero Snap (which I love btw). I know Win10 is suppose to further improve on this feature.
Re:Windows 10: Re-Crappifying Windows 8 by LukasMathis on Saturday January 31, 2015 @02:46PM (#8977808)
Yes, precisely!
Re:Windows 10: Re-Crappifying Windows 8 by tluyben2 on Saturday January 31, 2015 @02:24PM (#8977708)
Tiles are useful. Using a tiling window manager or splitting Metro or vim with splits or emacs with splits you see what's useful. Windows is not imho; tiling very much is. Tiling with virtual desktops.

Edit: To me Metro tablet size without desktop or iOS with tiling would be the best.

Re:Windows 10: Re-Crappifying Windows 8 by ChicagoDave on Saturday January 31, 2015 @01:54PM (#8977603)
This is why Microsoft introduced their Signature series. If you purchase any hardware with that identifier, there is no OEM bloatware. I picked up an HP Stream for my daughter and I was shocked to see it really was _just_ Windows and nothing else.