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Re:Cofounder management by 7Figures2Commas on Thursday January 29, 2015 @01:38PM (#8967997)
> Cofounders rarely have experience managing anyone or anything.

This might be true if you're talking about a startup run by a bunch of 20-somethings with no experience. These are certainly en vogue in Silicon Valley today, but hardly represent all startups.

> Cofounders often think they don't need management because they're all on the same team, working towards the same goals.

This is a sign of an inexperienced, naive founder. No entrepreneur worth teaming up with believes management is unnecessary.

> Startups are high pressure, and pressure makes people make bad decisions and lose their tempers.

Notwithstanding the fact that if your startup is a pressure cooker, you're doing it wrong, it's dangerous to believe that all people react the same way to pressure and stress. Pressure and stress lead some people to anger and poor decision making. Start a company with these people at your own risk.

> Deciding to start a company from scratch with the goal of building a billion dollar business takes ego.

Most successful businesses aren't started by people who are focused on building a billion-dollar company. If that's your overriding goal, clashing egos will hardly be your biggest problem.

Incidentally, while it obviously wasn't the intent, this post demonstrates some of the advantages of founding a company solo. It worked for Sam Walton, Ralph Lauren, Richard Branson, Sara Blakely, Jeff Bezos, Pierre Omidyar, Michael Dell, Ross Perot and countless others.

Investors like YC don't look on solo founders favorably and have helped create a narrative that has deterred some entrepreneurs from taking this path (and created the inane "seeking co-founder" environment), but entrepreneurs should understand that investors have motives for wanting multiple founders that are not necessarily aligned with their interests.

For seed stage investors particularly, multiple founders is a derisking mechanism. For instance, there are a lot of smart, talented folks out there, but it's still hard to find exceptional founders capable of competently wearing multiple hats. On the flip side, hiring exceptional employees is expensive. A company with just $120,000 in funding can't hire a good developer, product manager and sales or bizdev person. This creates significant risks for seed stage investors. The solution: seek companies with multiple founders who split key roles. Since founders at this stage essentially work for ramen and equity, having multiple founders is like a cheap insurance policy for resource risk.

Re:Cofounder management by jndsn402 on Thursday January 29, 2015 @01:48PM (#8968052)
Agreed, much of the startup advice from YC and other outlets is geared toward 20-somethings, and thus may come across as simplistic to people who have:

a) worked in a professional setting (e.g. a large corporation) b) managed other people c) been married d) been alive since before 1980

Re:Cofounder management by leesalminen on Thursday January 29, 2015 @01:56PM (#8968104)
I'm not convinced that ones age has anything to do with it. Personally, I think it has to do with maturity.

A person is simply the culmination of ones experiences, training and beliefs. For some, it takes 40 years to build those things and for others it takes 20 years.

Although age and maturity usually correlate directly, it's not always true. We've all met people in their 40s that act like they're 18, and 18 (ok, maybe 25) year olds that act like they're 40.

Disclaimer: I'm in my 20s

Re:Cofounder management by jtbigwoo on Thursday January 29, 2015 @03:52PM (#8968767)
When I was in my 20s, I would have said the same thing. :) I agree that there are mature 18-year-olds and immature 40-year-olds. I think you're discounting the role of practice, though. Someone with 20 years of experience has spent almost 40,000 hours at work. It's very hard for a 25-year-old to compensate for that no matter how smart they are or how many experiences they've had.

Story time: My grandfather was a soft-spoken old cowboy, but you should have seen him charm and intimidate cattle buyers. At 70 years old, he could hold his own with the slick-talking young buyers because he had gone through that same negotiation 100 times and there was no trick they could pull that he hadn't seen.

Disclaimer: I'm 39.

Re:Cofounder management by msandford on Thursday January 29, 2015 @03:49PM (#8968744)
I used to think that way too when I was in my 20s. High achiever, very smart. Now I'm in my 30s and I can say that my opinion has changed. Not hugely so, but definitely some.

The older you get the more your perception of time changes. I think this is part of the reason that there are so few 20-something leaders of huge companies. Partly it takes time to prove yourself to enough people to get a shot. Partly because it takes a long time to be patient enough to where you can be effective at the job.

Re:Cofounder management by nostrademons on Thursday January 29, 2015 @05:31PM (#8969320)
I dunno. I'm 33. My opinion has changed, and then it changed again.

I think I'm definitely not the same person now as I was at 24, or even 29. The thing is, I wasn't the same person at 29 as I was at 24 either, and I doubt I'll be the same person at 40. In other words, the process of change and growth doesn't stop - ever. Probably that's the biggest lesson I learned in my 30s.

I think the biggest mistake many 30 and 40-somethings make is to fit everything into an overarching narrative of growth and maturation. "I was young and foolish then, now I'm older and wiser." Because the narrative doesn't actually stop - we are still young and foolish, hopefully - and trying to fit yourself to it just ensures that you remain stagnant at wherever you were at 30. Instead of a narrative of growth and experience, it's really one of adaptation, of recognizing progressively more subtle distinctions in the environment and changing yourself in response to them. And in that narrative, it makes sense to listen to everybody, even to young people, so you can pick out the parts of their experience that are new and unfamiliar to you.

Re:Cofounder management by msandford on Thursday January 29, 2015 @10:32PM (#8970337)
Yeah, I'm not saying that I'm "older and wiser" at all. Older yes. Wiser maybe. More risk averse for sure, and a lot of people equate that with wisdom. I don't, but many do.
Re:Cofounder management by mikeg8 on Thursday January 29, 2015 @02:34PM (#8968319)
I'm in my mid 20s too and I strongly agree with what you said.
Re:Cofounder management by leesalminen on Thursday January 29, 2015 @02:48PM (#8968415)
Maybe it's because we've both lived in Chile? :P
Re:Cofounder management by adanto6840 on Thursday January 29, 2015 @01:53PM (#8968082)
I find C to be interesting -- my gut suspects it's probably correct & accurate, but not having ever been married I'd be interested in hearing you elaborate further on that point specifically.
Re:Cofounder management by leesalminen on Thursday January 29, 2015 @01:58PM (#8968122)
Marriage is not the only way to acquire the skills mentioned.

At 15, I was living in a small village in Chile, without parents. There were 2 English speakers in this town, and we learned to work together to learn a new language, adopt a new culture, reconcile differences, and more.

Those experiences have shaped my outlook on everything from relationship management to problem solving to effective communications.

IMHO, a great way to become an effective entrepreneur is to immerse yourself in high stress, difficult situations that require on-the-fly problem solving over and over again.

Re:Cofounder management by jndsn402 on Thursday January 29, 2015 @01:55PM (#8968101)
I just mean that married people have experience partnering closely with another person to achieve shared goals, and will have hopefully developed some strategies to do that effectively.
Re:Cofounder management by simonebrunozzi on Thursday January 29, 2015 @03:40PM (#8968694)
And dealing with young kids, which sometimes is the same as dealing with some founders :)
Re:Cofounder management by danielweber on Thursday January 29, 2015 @02:56PM (#8968459)
I'll say this: a start-up experience is excellent preparation for marriage.

Your marriage is more important to your long-term success than your start-up is, too.

Re:Cofounder management by eastbayjake on Thursday January 29, 2015 @04:09PM (#8968842)
I've watched founders in their 50s face these same struggles as startup founders. Most were married people had spent most of their careers in large corporations where they managed hundreds of employees. It's just really, really hard for 2-3 driven, Type A people to work through disagreements when they care deeply about a product.
Re:Cofounder management by krschultz on Thursday January 29, 2015 @05:09PM (#8969203)
I have no idea why you are being downvoted to oblivion. I've been on HN for over 7 years, and this comment is upvote worthy.

Yes, it goes against what PG preaches, but you don't downvote people that have intelligent well thought out comment just because it runs against the zeitgeist of SV.

Re:Cofounder management by 7Figures2Commas on Thursday January 29, 2015 @06:48PM (#8969646)
Frankly, I could care less about the downvotes but it's always telling when downvotes are not accompanied by substantive responses refuting the points made.