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Re:Firefox Hello by caractacus on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @06:26PM (#8963223)
Just what does the 'powered by Telefonica' bit mean?
Re:Firefox Hello by aroch on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @06:29PM (#8963236)
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/10/16/mozilla-and-telefon...

Presumably offering routing servers and transit. Plus Telefonica bought TokBox[1], whose tech powers the backend

[1] https://tokbox.com/

Re:Firefox Hello by higherpurpose on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @06:34PM (#8963266)
Does this affect the end to end encryption mechanism of WebRTC (at least for Internet users)?

In other words, can Telefonica make it easy to spy on all Firefox Hello talks, or only on the browser-to-phone ones? (which is to be expected, I guess).

Re:Firefox Hello by aroch on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @07:05PM (#8963461)
From my understanding of the WebRTC spec, as long as your TURN/STUN server is trusted (which it is, the CA and relay are both run by Mozilla) it doesn't matter if the network is untrustworthy.

WebRTC by itsself is not MITM resistant

Re:Firefox Hello by alvatar on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @06:30PM (#8963238)
Telefonica has many developers working on Firefox OS, it probably means that the want to show up.
Re:Firefox Hello by netfire on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @06:33PM (#8963262)
Telefonica is a global telecommunications company. (I've never seen them in the US, but they are very common in latin america) Not sure what they have to do with a web video chat system.
Re:Firefox Hello by suyash on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @06:39PM (#8963297)
Now that is scary, as I don't want to give all my personal data to some random company's server in Europe? Firefox is cool with me but Telefonica, not so much.
Re:Firefox Hello by nsm on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @10:27PM (#8964147)
Your personal data isn't going anywhere. The server is only used for establishing the connection when clients are behind NATs (which in today's environment you usually always are). If I understand WebRTC correctly, once the link is established, all communication is peer to peer.
Re:Firefox Hello by dkharrat on Thursday January 29, 2015 @01:33AM (#8964673)
> If I understand WebRTC correctly, once the link is established, all communication is peer to peer.

In general, it's peer-to-peer, but for clients that can't communicate peer-to-peer for whatever reason (usually due to certain NATs), a relay server is used as an intermediary. To the user it's transparent, so they can't easily tell if it's peer-to-peer or not.