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Re:Iran is in the throes of an unprecedented sexual revoluti... by pluma on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @05:11PM (#8962874)
Islam is a bit more complex than "Iran supports Hezbollah, so they support terrorists". Look into the Sunni vs Shia split some time and then look at which organizations and countries identify with which side of that split.

Saudi Arabia is far worse than Iran. While Iran's strict theocracy is slowly falling out of favour with its population, Saudi Arabia is quite effective at perpetuating its theocracy thanks to its wealth and international relationships.

It's not just that Saudi Arabia does some bad stuff. It does the same bad stuff as Iran -- and worse -- yet we (and in this case I mean us, Germany, in particular) sell weapons and military equipment to the Saudis and buy their oil while sanctioning Iran.

I'm an atheist, so I'm strictly opposed to any form of religious influence on politics (be it Muslim, Christian or Jewish). But you have to acknowledge that Iran is taking a turn towards the better while Saudi Arabia sits comfortably in a Bronze Age form of government and legal system (with full access to the Post-Space Age technology we are selling them).

Re:Iran is in the throes of an unprecedented sexual revoluti... by adventured on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @05:39PM (#8963018)
No, if you support a terrorist organization, then you support terrorists.

I said nothing about Islam. Supporting terrorists has nothing to do with Islam. Iran supporting Hezbollah has to do with Iran supporting terrorists.

I never said Saudi or Iran were worse. That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. This isn't an argument over what the worst country on earth is.

My point was: Iran is an oppressive theocracy that directly finances terrorism. They are, very blatantly. And if Saudi is worse, that does not mean Iran isn't still an oppressive theocracy.

Re:Iran is in the throes of an unprecedented sexual revoluti... by pluma on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @06:05PM (#8963132)
I'm not really disagreeing then, I'm just failing to see your point.

Iran is an oppressive theocracy. Saudi Arabia is an oppressive theocracy. Both of them support people/groups we would call terrorists. The only regard in which Iran is somehow worse than Saudi Arabia is that they have a more outspoken hate of Israel while the Saudis are clever enough to avoid speaking too badly about a country in their region that is a close ally to the countries they're so good at doing business with.

One country being worse than another doesn't make the other country any better. I'm not saying Iran is moderate. It's just a heck of a lot more moderate (in practice) than Saudi Arabia, a country that televises PSAs that women shouldn't drive and that you better don't skip on any of your prayers throughout the day because God will literally kill you if you do that.

Re:Iran is in the throes of an unprecedented sexual revoluti... by adventured on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @06:24PM (#8963213)
Here is my point, the parent I initially replied to said this:

"Despite the foreign politics a few years ago, Iran is reportedly rather moderate in practice."

I disagreed. There is nothing moderate about Iran's oppressive theocracy or their support of terrorism. Iran is at the extreme far end of the scale when it comes to not being moderate, among countries.

Re:Iran is in the throes of an unprecedented sexual revoluti... by pekk on Wednesday January 28, 2015 @06:18PM (#8963191)
The only construable "turn towards the better" in Iran is that the dictator allowed Rouhani to act as figurehead President, which is meaningless. The dictator is still the dictator, Rouhani is an old hand from the inner circle, and he says exactly what was said before. Now people are suffering under economic sanctions and the wonderful peacemaking Rouhani is still stalling on a nuclear deal years later. By the way, nothing ever happened to rectify 2009, and they keep kidnapping Persians to put in Evin. Rouhani is proud of Evin just like the rest.