Robots Can’t Dance: Why the singularity is greatly exaggerated

Re:Robots Can’t Dance: Why the singularity is greatly exagge... by marktangotango on Monday January 26, 2015 @06:03AM (#8946436)

>> “No, you’re missing that a fundamental aspect of intelligence is experience and that requires embodiment.” He knew that to understand the world you needed to be inside the world, you needed to experience its behaviors and responses to you. Well, he was right. We may be making progress in being able to do things like recognize a cat in a photograph. But there’s a huge gulf between that and doing something creative.

I'm not sure if I agree with this, but it is a compelling argument. Could experience be simulated the first time, hence bootstrapping the AI's?

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Re:Robots Can’t Dance: Why the singularity is greatly exagge... by vidarh on Monday January 26, 2015 @06:17AM (#8946472)

There are tons of people working on giving robots the ability of collecting experience through embodiment in robots.

It may be a compelling argument for why the various timelines thrown around for the singularity will be off, but it's a speed bump, not a road block.

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Re:Robots Can’t Dance: Why the singularity is greatly exagge... by stephanfroede on Monday January 26, 2015 @06:20AM (#8946480)

So goes the argumentation since 1960.

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Re:Robots Can’t Dance: Why the singularity is greatly exagge... by lmm on Monday January 26, 2015 @06:48AM (#8946532)

By the standards of 1960 we already have AI. After all, computers can beat the best humans at chess.

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Re:Robots Can’t Dance: Why the singularity is greatly exagge... by stephanfroede on Monday January 26, 2015 @12:23PM (#8948225)

A chess board is a closed system with fixed rules, as far as I know you only need a lot of computing power to apply the min-max algorithm to solve any chess game.

In a chess game there are no probalities, AI is about to independently recognizing patterns in noise and develop assumptions out of it. The trick human brains are applying here is called intuition.

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Re:Robots Can’t Dance: Why the singularity is greatly exagge... by lmm on Tuesday January 27, 2015 @07:30AM (#8952696)

That wasn't what people said in 1960 - as soon as AIs solve a particular problem we redefine intelligence to mean something different. Modern AIs (e.g. hypothesis generation toolkits) can be better at recognizing patterns in noise than humans. I bet in 20 years' time we'll see that - and we'll be having this same conversation about how pattern recognition isn't really intelligence.

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Re:Robots Can’t Dance: Why the singularity is greatly exagge... by crististm on Monday January 26, 2015 @10:37AM (#8947526)

by some definition of AI

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