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Re:A.I. Has Grown Up and Left Home by duaneb on Thursday January 22, 2015 @01:00PM (#8930588)
> Neural networks are unsuccessful because they are not detecting anything. They're just making statistical correlations that happen to be right for the specific set of training data they have received. There's no robustness whatsoever. Artificial gullibility.

This is what the brain does, too. All inductive reasoning comes down to statistical correlations. The human brain has NEVER had "robustness".

Re:A.I. Has Grown Up and Left Home by alextgordon on Thursday January 22, 2015 @01:15PM (#8930670)
By robustness I mean the brain is pretty hard to exploit. You can't trick it into thinking an image is pornographic just by changing the color balance.
Re:A.I. Has Grown Up and Left Home by vidarh on Thursday January 22, 2015 @02:14PM (#8931055)
There's an entire subreddit devoted to a technique for fooling the brain into thinking an image is pornographic by overlaying patterns that obscures clothed sections [1] (and at least one more about more generic optical illusions)

Not quite the color balance, but how anyone can assert the brain is hard to exploit is beyond me.

[1] it's this technique - links is probably nsfw: https://richardwiseman.wordpress.com/2010/09/07/naked-women-... - I don't remember the name of the subreddit.

Re:A.I. Has Grown Up and Left Home by chriswarbo on Thursday January 22, 2015 @01:35PM (#8930794)
> The brain is pretty hard to exploit.

No it's not, just ask any advertiser.

> You can't trick it into thinking an image is pornographic just by changing the color balance.

If the only data someone has about an image is its colour balance and you asked them to classify which they think are pornographic, then yes you can.

It's a pretty stupid idea to impose such limitations though, on humans or ANNs. Even if you did only care about colour balance, you don't need an ANN to tell you that; just scale the image down to 1 pixel x 1 pixel, then look at its colour.

Re:A.I. Has Grown Up and Left Home by alextgordon on Thursday January 22, 2015 @02:03PM (#8930992)
> > By robustness I mean the brain is pretty hard to exploit. You can't trick it into thinking an image is pornographic just by changing the color balance. > No it's not, just ask any advertiser.

One of the great things about humans is that they can consider the context of a remark, although apparently this is not universal.

Re:A.I. Has Grown Up and Left Home by abandonliberty on Thursday January 22, 2015 @03:30PM (#8931537)
Maybe it's an AI.
Re:A.I. Has Grown Up and Left Home by kylegrove on Thursday January 22, 2015 @03:06PM (#8931403)
The phenomena outlined in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_illusion would seem to instantly belie the claim in your first sentence.
Re:A.I. Has Grown Up and Left Home by jayvanguard on Thursday January 22, 2015 @03:30PM (#8931540)
> By robustness I mean the brain is pretty hard to exploit.

As others have pointed out, the complete opposite is true.

Re:A.I. Has Grown Up and Left Home by mkorfmann on Thursday January 22, 2015 @01:05PM (#8930613)
> This is what the brain does

Good to know you know what our brain does, science hasn't figured out yet but you have...

Re:A.I. Has Grown Up and Left Home by duaneb on Thursday January 22, 2015 @01:14PM (#8930659)
Well, I don't know it, but if my brain operates at a higher certainty it certainly doesn't reach my thoughts.