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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by ANTSANTS on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @01:00PM (#8924394)
The official reason was along the lines of "I don't want to host another Project Chanology," but it probably had more to do with the fact that moot was closely involved with at least one Gawker Media employee[1] and spoke at XOXO[2] alongside numerous companies and organizations that the Gamergate movement is adversarial towards.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2gvtrp/

[2] http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/833450-gamergate

EDIT: Downvote all you like. I'm not making any judgement pro or anti Gamergate in this post, I'm just pointing out a rather large conflict of interest.

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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by MrDom on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @02:32PM (#8925071)
I don't know why this is downvoted. Moot is involved with somebody at Gawker Media. If he is getting social pressure about "sexist" or "misogynistic" content, like pervycreeper claims, it's not out of line to suggest she could be a huge influence on his behavior.
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by devindotcom on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @03:53PM (#8925689)
What's weird about the idea that he would have a friend in the online publishing community with shared views on a controversial topic?
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by MrDom on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @04:15PM (#8925831)
What's weird about the idea that somebody you're sleeping with could affect your judgement?
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by devindotcom on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @04:46PM (#8925980)
It's naive and presumptuous. Have it your way, though.
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by BgSpnnrs on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @06:08PM (#8926419)
There's nothing naive and presumptuous about it in the least, it's an ethical violation that wouldn't fly by most professional standards and there are vast tracts of legal obligations most people adhere to which define those boundaries, no matter what a small group of hacks suppose.

fortunately the more responsible publications have already updated their policies and looked inwardly to prevent fucking up so publicly and obviously again. (We can hope at the least they won't soapbox to their readership that they are assholes for calling them out!).

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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by devindotcom on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @06:27PM (#8926500)
It really isn't anything like what you describe, BgSpnners. You're deeply mistaken. That's as far as I care to pursue it.
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by MrDom on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @07:12PM (#8926683)
Thank you for refusing to engage. You make the rest of us look so damned good. You disagree, but you won't say why? You say we're wrong, but won't say why? That's a good way to encourage open debate.

BTW: this guy is a journalist for TechCrunch. I only mention it because it explains why he doesn't want to actually debate the topic.

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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by devindotcom on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @07:53PM (#8926827)
Actually, I write for NBC News mainly. I only do columns now and then for TC. Neither of those things has any bearing on me 'refusing to engage.' I really just don't care to (though I didn't want the TC allegation to go unanswered, not that anyone's listening). But I know you'll choose to believe what best advances your existing prejudice. Be my guest.
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by MrDom on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @08:35PM (#8926990)
But I know you'll choose to believe what best advances your existing prejudice.

I choose to believe what I can prove. You provide nothing of substance. Empty words and air. You work for ABC news and not TC. Ok, great. What does that have to do with Moot?

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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by devindotcom on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @01:54PM (#8924754)
That's not what conflict of interest means
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by Uhhrrr on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @02:29PM (#8925056)
The journalist involved in the initial scandal worked for Kotaku, a Gawker site.
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by devindotcom on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @03:49PM (#8925665)
there was no "initial scandal"
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by Uhhrrr on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @05:17PM (#8926175)
The initial scandal was that Nathan Grayson had been friends with the relatively unknown developer of Depression Quest for a long time, to the point of getting thanked in the credits of the game. He then plugged it, here:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/01/08/admission-quest-v...

And also covered her here:

http://tmi.kotaku.com/the-indie-game-reality-tv-show-that-we...

...without disclosing the relationship. Which could have been resolved with a simple apology and adding disclosure to the articles, but several major game sites instead responded with such a storm of ridiculous charges that game journalism was instantly sullied even more than it already was.

Because of this, GamerGate has been poorly covered in most game sites and rags like TechCrunch, so it's not surprising that you hadn't heard of this.

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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by smasuch on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @06:19PM (#8926468)
The initial scandal was Zoe Quinn's ex posting a long rambling screed about his breakup, designed to get people to attack her. http://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-man-who-sparked-...
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by Uhhrrr on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @06:55PM (#8926628)
Direct link: https://thezoepost.wordpress.com/ Yes, this is what first implicated Grayson. I'd say its primary purpose was to get people to avoid her, but any interested parties can read the whole thing.
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by devindotcom on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @06:55PM (#8926625)
Exactly: no scandal.
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by pervycreeper on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @07:58PM (#8926855)
Dr. Greg Lisby on this topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_lzjvu24a8

Very clearly what occurred was a major violation of ethics.

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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by Uhhrrr on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @08:01PM (#8926868)
I would say not disclosing something that's clearly a potential conflict of interest is scandalous. That Devin, a writer for TechCrunch disagrees is... interesting. Illustrative.
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by ANTSANTS on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @08:48PM (#8927042)
It's pretty sad how all it took was time and a thin coat of feminist paint for HN to forget how corrupt and morally bankrupt these clickbait "journalists" are.

http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2012/02/13/hit-men-click-wh...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3587730

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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by devindotcom on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @08:31PM (#8926978)
I'm glad my position has been instructive!
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Re:The Next Chapter – moot retires from 4chan by brymaster on Wednesday January 21, 2015 @08:36PM (#8926992)
The amount of cognitive dissonance you practice is astounding.
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