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Re:Aol Is Restructuring, Layoffs and Site Closures Likely by Animats on Monday January 19, 2015 @02:50PM (#8913672)
AOL may have to return to its profitable core business - dial-up. Yes, AOL still has millions of dial-up accounts, and those bring in more revenue than the content farms.

Somebody has to serve middle America.

Re:Aol Is Restructuring, Layoffs and Site Closures Likely by Animats on Monday January 19, 2015 @03:18PM (#8913820)
Who modded that down? Look at AOL's income graph. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnDHPXzCYAAS2Zu.png) AOL still has over 2 million members paying $20 or so a month, and that's where all their profits come from. Their "content" business loses money.
Re:Aol Is Restructuring, Layoffs and Site Closures Likely by mikeryan on Monday January 19, 2015 @04:14PM (#8914113)
(I didn't mod it down, but..)

I don't think anyone looks at the dial-up business as one thats going to do anything but shrink year over year. Any growth for AOL is going to come out of something thats not as an ISP for dial-up. Content farming consistent with AOL's DNA that makes money and, in theory, is way to see some growth.

Looking at that chart is confusing to me because I can't tell why sometimes their Platform business kills it, and other times its a loser. That seems to be the business to focus on.

Re:Aol Is Restructuring, Layoffs and Site Closures Likely by sedachv on Monday January 19, 2015 @05:00PM (#8914386)
> Looking at that chart is confusing to me because I can't tell why sometimes their Platform business kills it, and other times its a loser.

They're making money Q4 2011, Q4 2012, Q4 2013 and to a lesser extent Q3 2013. Looks like it might be Christmas shopping ads.

Re:Aol Is Restructuring, Layoffs and Site Closures Likely by deciplex on Monday January 19, 2015 @09:51PM (#8915227)
The voting culture here is toxic, and totally benign posts frequently get voted down for no good reason, and without comment. I see posts complaining about downvotes now in every other thread on HN, and I still haven't seen a mod comment about it. It's getting to be real pain in the ass, and something does need to be done. I'd be in favor of making votes public at this point, the problem has gotten so bad.

The fact that early downvotes are usually canceled out, eventually, does not render the problem moot. It merely makes it a bit easier to live with.

I'm pretty sure there are at least a few bots that are automatically downvoting posts with certain keywords as well, and the accounts for those bots need to be identified and banned.

Re:Aol Is Restructuring, Layoffs and Site Closures Likely by djrogers on Monday January 19, 2015 @05:09PM (#8914435)
I have no idea what the breakdown is, but a not insignificant number of AOL's "members" don't use dial-up, but run the AOL client over their cable/dsl connection. That costs ~$10/mo or less.

Crazy, but true...

Re:Aol Is Restructuring, Layoffs and Site Closures Likely by protomyth on Monday January 19, 2015 @04:54PM (#8914360)
I'm not sure the majority are middle America. We have a lot of fiber going in with these rural cooperatives offering some pretty good speeds. I get the feeling it is a lot of folks who dropped of the tech train and just want their e-mail.
Re:Aol Is Restructuring, Layoffs and Site Closures Likely by freehunter on Monday January 19, 2015 @05:34PM (#8914558)
Have you seen any figures on what percentage of rural households have access to fiber? I haven't, bu I would rather wager that the majority of rural America is on AOL than wager that even any significant number of rural Americans use fiber of any sort. Rural fiber is important, but my parents switched from dial-up to HughesNet, not ResTel.
Re:Aol Is Restructuring, Layoffs and Site Closures Likely by protomyth on Monday January 19, 2015 @09:08PM (#8915110)
I've actually been trying to get the stats but they are hard to get. I do know that there is a lot of expansion and we are seeing internet speed & price are lower than Comcast. It looks like either feast or famine. I would also note that AOL did not have 100% coverage. You might remember the lawsuit AOL dealt with 800 number charges. Dialup has holes in its coverage.
Re:Aol Is Restructuring, Layoffs and Site Closures Likely by Scoundreller on Tuesday January 20, 2015 @01:57AM (#8915765)
A more likely problem for rural AOL is the decreasing cost of Point-to-Point and Point-to-Multipoint wifi run on licensed and unlicensed spectrum. Lots of little players out there with Ubiquiti networks (or similar equipment).
Re:Aol Is Restructuring, Layoffs and Site Closures Likely by bN58SH3pZB on Monday January 19, 2015 @03:17PM (#8913813)
You're joking right? Do you have any idea how much money AOL makes from running their own online advertising network on these content sites? It is not chump change.