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Re:Salary negotiations for techies (2011) by phamilton on Sunday January 18, 2015 @07:30PM (#8909643)
In an organization that enables and embraces employee initiatives, I have found that eatting together greatly benefits me, the employee. Cross team socializing has led to many new initiatives that were profitable for the company and for me personally (promotions and raises came as a result).

Eating together can be accomplished through culture alone but providing food is probably easier and more successful.

Re:Salary negotiations for techies (2011) by logfromblammo on Monday January 19, 2015 @11:48AM (#8912672)
Putting a basket in the break room, filled with menus from nearby take-out restaurants, is even easier.

I have worked at a lot of different companies, and an ad-hoc, employee-organized lunch run is very common. The person who commits to handling the cash and picking up the food decides on the restaurant, orders are placed by a deadline, and people eat it when it arrives. If a manager or admin staffer names the restaurant, they have to say whether the cost of the meal is on the company or not.

Occasionally, someone will name a sit-down restaurant and a time of day, and people simply show up.

People who don't want to participate on any given day don't participate. They eat the lunch they packed from home, or go somewhere else.

That's how grown-ups eat lunch. If this pattern does not arise naturally, there is some dysfunction in the workplace that should probably be solved directly, rather than trying to force the pattern into existence by providing catered lunches.

Re:Salary negotiations for techies (2011) by phamilton on Monday January 19, 2015 @12:06PM (#8912756)
I think your suggestion works well at a smaller company (<50 employees), but as the company starts moving to multiple floors/buildings and departments become a bit more isolated then the organic lunches tend to be intra-department vs inter-department. We have lunch brought in once a week. On the days we don't have lunch it is very much as you describe within each department, but on the day the company provides lunch it is very common to see engineers eating with the account management team and that is when the useful conversations happen.
Re:Salary negotiations for techies (2011) by meddlepal on Monday January 19, 2015 @07:09PM (#8914816)
I don't know, This is more or less how my company works (~150 people). It scales well, because even in a larger company there is a certain amount of intermingling between teams as developers change roles over time. For example, I know a lot of people in my company because I have moved across several different teams during my four year tenure. I just throw the people I want to hang out with at lunch on a Skype group chat. Sometimes they join and sometimes they do not.

On a different note, at my company, talking about work at lunch is pretty taboo unless the topic of the lunch was previously disclosed by the initiator to be work-related. Lunch is when we talk about all kinds of other bullshit and only talk about work if we're desperately spinning our wheels on something or want to vent.

Re:Salary negotiations for techies (2011) by logfromblammo on Monday January 19, 2015 @02:47PM (#8913658)
That sounds like some form of confirmation bias. You may not be aware of the usefulness of conversations that happen under circumstances not favorable to you observing their content.

The company-supplied lunches lead to useful conversations in a place where you are able to judge their utility.

When people from your office go out and do not invite you, you are unable to know who is talking to whom, or what they are talking about. And you should not know, because that would make you a spying creep.

Re:Salary negotiations for techies (2011) by phamilton on Monday January 19, 2015 @05:00PM (#8914390)
Confirmation bias is fine here, because we are trying to establish whether or not lunch being provided benefits employees. The anecdotal evidence suggests that it is beneficial to >0 employees at >0 companies, therefore the claim that it only benefits the employer is false.
Re:Salary negotiations for techies (2011) by logfromblammo on Tuesday January 20, 2015 @04:16PM (#8919655)
You also have to show that it could not have been more beneficial for the employee to be doing something else.

You can't discount opportunity costs. If Oprah was giving away cars to everyone who went out to eat lunch at a local strip mall, you can't reasonably say that a person who found a quarter on the break room floor benefited by staying in the office to eat lunch.

You only observed the conversation that you observed. You did not observe all the potential conversations that might have occurred instead of the one you heard. The value of such conversations is the result of an expected value calculation, based on the potential benefit multiplied by the possibility that such benefit would be realized. That involves a lot of guesswork, obviously.

Re:Salary negotiations for techies (2011) by ar_turnbull on Monday January 19, 2015 @12:46PM (#8912956)
I work at an agency that used to have an office bistro for breakfast/lunch. We moved to a new office and lost the perk because it didn't have the space.

Now people just sit at their desk and check Facebook/reddit/etc over lunch — or they break into cliques. As a junior employee, I found that free lunch leveled the playing field. Senior managers couldn't hide out with only other senior managers when you all eat at the same place.

They say that the family that eats together stays together and I think that's just as true for work families.