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Re:SpaceX Has Pinpointed the Problem That Caused the Falcon9... by ChuckMcM on Thursday January 15, 2015 @09:11PM (#8896881)
Oddly, if it was a 'stupid' mistake I'm pretty sure they would own up to it.

But lets look at what the these things do. During descent they provide control authority over roll, pitch, and yaw of the lower stage. Even though the center of gravity is near the bottom the rocket, the system is trying to keep it vertical. It is travelling down range and needs to go from moving sideways, to coming straight down. Earlier versions of Grasshopper used hypergolic thrusters on the sides but they were scrapped in favor of the fins system. So once you run out of hydraulic fluid, you're limited to the ability to gimbal the Merlin engines for controlling pitch and yaw.

If you watch the video you can see that the fins are used all the way to the point where it lands.

So my guess is they knew they were going to run out of hydraulic fuel and brought the rocket in "hot" (at a higher than planned approach speed) and didn't manage to get close enough before the fins stopped working.

If that really was the only thing that didn't work correctly, then we'll know on the 29th.

Re:SpaceX Has Pinpointed the Problem That Caused the Falcon9... by JshWright on Thursday January 15, 2015 @09:42PM (#8896986)
There weren't any 'early versions' of Grasshopper. Grasshopper was a single test vehicle (and it didn't use hypergolics, it just relied on gimbaling the single Merlin it had).

The first stage has cold-gas thrusters on board for attitude control, but has never used hypergolics, AFAIK. The only hypergolic engines SpaceX uses are the Draco and SuperDraco, which were never on any first stage cores.

Re:SpaceX Has Pinpointed the Problem That Caused the Falcon9... by ChuckMcM on Thursday January 15, 2015 @10:46PM (#8897159)
You are correct, a long time ago when reading about the Draco I was under the impression they were used on the early Falcon 9 as thrusters, but according to this : http://www.spacex.com/news/2013/04/04/draco-thrusters they were only used on the upper stage and on the Dragon.
Re:SpaceX Has Pinpointed the Problem That Caused the Falcon9... by StavrosK on Friday January 16, 2015 @06:31AM (#8898241)
Weird that I would look at the username for this single post out of the entire thread. You had me at "hypergolics".