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Re:How to Learn Any Language in 3 Months by dcurtis on Monday October 19, 2009 @01:37AM (#889553)
I think Japanese is a bad example.

If you spoke English and moved to Spain for three months, and you spent an hour or more a day actively attempting to learn the language, you would catch on very quickly.

Re:How to Learn Any Language in 3 Months by wheels on Monday October 19, 2009 @02:03AM (#889588)
These things assume that language learning abilities are roughly universal, and that languages within the same vague groups are roughly as hard as one-another.

German, for instance, turns out to be a lot harder than Spanish, which I'd learned when I was younger. I've been in Germany for 7.5 years, have had girlfriends I only spoke German to, speak German with most of my friends ... and I still struggle with getting the grammar right.

Once again I find Tim's take on things horribly over-simplifying. It seems that he makes rather audacious points by redefining words (e.g. "work", "fluency") and then drawing a bunch of conclusions based on those redefinitions.

Re:How to Learn Any Language in 3 Months by chris123 on Monday October 19, 2009 @04:35AM (#889725)
I agree on the "language learning abilities" comment. For some people, learning a second (or more) language is easy; for others it's hard.
Re:How to Learn Any Language in 3 Months by jbellis on Monday October 19, 2009 @08:53AM (#889966)
> German, for instance, turns out to be a lot harder than Spanish, which I'd learned when I was younger

I'd guess it's the "learned when I was younger" part that made the difference.

Re:How to Learn Any Language in 3 Months by davidw on Monday October 19, 2009 @09:03AM (#889982)
I studied German when I was younger (middle school/high school), and Italian a bit later (college), and Italian is definitely easier (though no language is easy).
Re:How to Learn Any Language in 3 Months by wheels on Monday October 19, 2009 @10:03AM (#890063)
The difference was Spanish at 14, German at 21. From a language learning perspective 14 is already past the age where there's much innate.
Re:How to Learn Any Language in 3 Months by reggieband on Monday October 19, 2009 @09:45AM (#890030)
I currently live in Barcelona. I began studying Spanish in January of this year (having never learned previously and it is my first foreign language). I spent 1 hour per day religiously practising basic Spanish until I moved here in March. From April to June (3 full months) I took Spanish lessons 4 hours per day 5 days per week. I participate in inter-cambios regularly. I have now been here for 8 months.

I would like to tell you that you are most certainly wrong. Although I can have a simple conversation in a social context I have a lot of trouble understanding the fluid discussions of native speakers. I have met many people who have moved here and are attempting to learn the language and can attest to the fact no one learns in 3 months. 12 months is closer to reality and even then the level will be extremely basic.

Re:How to Learn Any Language in 3 Months by JulianMorrison on Monday October 19, 2009 @08:37AM (#889943)
Spanish is the bad example. All the western European languages are heavily co-evolved and share roots.
Re:How to Learn Any Language in 3 Months by jbellis on Monday October 19, 2009 @08:51AM (#889962)
I think that's precisely his point.
Re:How to Learn Any Language in 3 Months by gloob on Monday October 19, 2009 @09:04AM (#889985)
That's grand, but "learn any language that has millennia of development in common with your native language in three months" doesn't have much of a ring to it.