And Wave was a rehash of Ray Ozzie's Groove, which got bought by Microsoft when they hired him, and then they shelved it. This was c. '97, so how much more was Ozzie ahead of his time, and when is it going to be BE time for this? I still want it. I think the problem with Groove was that it stored data on your local machine, and replicated between clients, and the big companies aren't interested. Best I can figure is that they want all that data on their servers so that they can examine what's in it and how it's being used.