Re:Asm/C/Python/Lisp etc... coder looking for something new.
by spooneybarger on Saturday October 17, 2009 @08:51PM
(#887710)
If you are doing a CRUD style app, you aren't going to get as much from Seaside. If you shared state- required etc. Seaside/Weblocks will be a dream, you'll be amazed how quickly you get things done that took so long in the Djanjo/Catalyst/Rails style.
I love how Seaside has changed they way I think about web dev.
Re:Asm/C/Python/Lisp etc... coder looking for something new.
by alnayyir on Saturday October 17, 2009 @09:00PM
(#887723)
What are some web apps that don't have a CRUD model to them?
Re:Asm/C/Python/Lisp etc... coder looking for something new.
by spooneybarger on Saturday October 17, 2009 @09:11PM
(#887733)
Well by CRUD, I really meant and should have said, simple CRUD. blogs, twitter etc where you basic interaction is short.
Things that can not simple CRUD:
multi step e-commerce order application, games, anything that relies on your previous action to decide what happens now.
a blog doesnt care what I did before, neither does twitter or myspace or facebook. Do this thing, store result. 1 page to result usually. Simple CRUD.
If you do simple CRUD, you probably won't get a ton of value from Seaside/Weblocks. If you are doing applications where stateful is required/desired and RESTful is hard, both will be wonderful to work with.
Re:Asm/C/Python/Lisp etc... coder looking for something new.
by alnayyir on Saturday October 17, 2009 @09:58PM
(#887792)
Why is RESTful desirable?
Re:Asm/C/Python/Lisp etc... coder looking for something new.
by spooneybarger on Saturday October 17, 2009 @10:12PM
(#887810)
There is a mass of blog posts etc about why RESTful can be a good thing ( even if many get REST somewhat wrong ), I don't think anything is going to be gained by my trying to fit all that information into this small textarea.
Difficult to monetize something that isn't a web app or otherwise requires web access these days.
The shared state model in smalltalk/seaside interests me because sharing state in Django is a huge pain sometimes.