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Re:In Wake of Charlie Hebdo Attack, Let’s Not Sacrifice Even... by MichaelGG on Thursday January 08, 2015 @06:14PM (#8859677)
Tolerance as a concept is flawed. Why should you have to "tolerate" things? The very phrasing is combative. I shouldn't have to "tolerate", say, homosexuality any more than I have to "tolerate" the floral wallpaper at my neighbor's. It should simply be a non-issue. I've not yet met a guy I want to sleep with, but it's not like anyone's forcing me to do so. My "tolerance" is a non-entity and it's just odd to even discuss it.

To say you "tolerate" something implies you're against it, but you're gonna allow it to go on. Should I say I "tolerate" Justin Bieber? That'd be pretty arrogant of me to say. As much as I dislike his antics, I, as some random member of the public, should not be able to be in a position where I can be intolerant of him.

An enhanced focus on rationality, critical thinking, skepticism, rejection of magical thinking -- all these things will build inoculation against these particular shitty ideas.

Unfortunately, that also means dismissing religion, deriding modern politics, etc. But as a first start, getting rid of "freedom of religion", and instead focusing on freedom of {speech, expression, association, gathering, thought} wouldn't be bad. It'd cause people to think a bit more critically of what they mean by freedom of religion and so on.

Re:In Wake of Charlie Hebdo Attack, Let’s Not Sacrifice Even... by pc2g4d on Thursday January 08, 2015 @06:26PM (#8859734)
You may not like the idea of tolerance being necessary, but the truth is that almost everybody is "against" things that they nevertheless don't actively oppose. It's just going to happen for any society where the population exceeds one person. Tolerance as a concept has its problems, but I think it is overall helpful.
Re:In Wake of Charlie Hebdo Attack, Let’s Not Sacrifice Even... by Retra on Sunday January 11, 2015 @04:22PM (#8871371)
It is helpful as an improvement, not as an ideal.
Re:In Wake of Charlie Hebdo Attack, Let’s Not Sacrifice Even... by reinhardt on Thursday January 08, 2015 @06:52PM (#8859840)
Would it be fair to say you are intolerant of religion then?
Re:In Wake of Charlie Hebdo Attack, Let’s Not Sacrifice Even... by MichaelGG on Thursday January 08, 2015 @07:49PM (#8860071)
I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. I'm against special casing things and promoting the idea we have to respect lies. Homeopathy is just as bad (though not as popular).

I'm neither tolerant nor intolerant of what religion people have, just like I don't care how they go about brushing their teeth. You wanna say a turtle made the world and you must always wear a hat, and that this is an undeniable truth and law if the universe? Great. So long as the government and society doesn't give special preference to that idea vs, say, flat-Earthers or geocentrists, everything's fine.

Re:In Wake of Charlie Hebdo Attack, Let’s Not Sacrifice Even... by ars on Friday January 09, 2015 @05:03AM (#8861526)
So basically you are intolerant.

You are fine if they do things "over there" but as soon as it has anything to do with you you are intolerant.

Everyone is like that - even people who call themself intolerant. You call yourself tolerant, but when push comes to shove you are actually not.

You should stop lying to yourself and actually look at your own thought process to at least be aware of it, even if you are unwilling (or unable) to change it.