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Re:A gun is now more likely to kill you than a car is in the... by lkbm on Thursday January 08, 2015 @12:20PM (#8857440)
This argument seems at odds with the claim that suicide constitutes the majority of the deaths.
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Re:A gun is now more likely to kill you than a car is in the... by danielweber on Thursday January 08, 2015 @12:50PM (#8857670)
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Even though most gun deaths are suicide [1], your odds of killing yourself via suicide are still low. There's slightly less than 1% chance of your life ending via suicide. Taking away guns to stop suicides is a pretty big NNT.

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Accidental discharge: 591

Suicide by firearm: 19,990

Assault by firearm: 11,068

Unknown involving firearms: 248

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr63/nvsr63_03.pdf

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Re:A gun is now more likely to kill you than a car is in the... by ta75757 on Thursday January 08, 2015 @12:23PM (#8857463)
How so?
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Re:A gun is now more likely to kill you than a car is in the... by vor_ on Thursday January 08, 2015 @12:41PM (#8857599)
I believe the point is that if the chance of suicide is very small, and the mentally ill are forbidden from owning guns, it would seemingly be at odds with the claim that "over half of all quoted gun deaths" are suicides.
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Re:A gun is now more likely to kill you than a car is in the... by ta75757 on Thursday January 08, 2015 @12:52PM (#8857690)
I don't see the direct connection between the suicide risk of a single gun owner and the ratio of suicide to homicide in total gun deaths.

The claim regarding suicide vs homicide is easy to confirm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_Sta...). It is not possible to predict every suicide, the best we can do is make an approximation using obvious risk factors like hospitalization for mental illness. There are millions of gun owners in the US, so yes the chance of a suicide is small.

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Re:A gun is now more likely to kill you than a car is in the... by FeeTinesAMady on Friday January 09, 2015 @05:05AM (#8861529)
How is it at odds with that? That is a fact, not an opinion. It's true that over half of all quoted gun deaths are suicides, and it's true that the chance of suicide is very small. The great majority of gun owners don't commit suicide. There's no contradiction.
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