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Re:Under the Hood with Java 10 Enhanced Generics by lukedegruchy on Tuesday December 30, 2014 @07:16AM (#8814259)
Java interop is way better with Ceylon 1.1. For example, use-site variance for generics was introduced and overloading bugs have been resolved. Ceylon 1.2 will have constructors (to support DI frameworks) and I believe Java EE integration. The Ceylon guys have been very careful about adding new features, considering the pros and cons. Strict Java interoperability would have resulted in a much less elegant language (ex public/protected/private instead of shared and allowing an escape hatch for null, as Swift and Kotlin have done).
Re:Under the Hood with Java 10 Enhanced Generics by eropple on Tuesday December 30, 2014 @01:26PM (#8815864)
Yeah, having looked at Ceylon 1.2 I withdraw the "or Ceylon" part of what I'd said above. It's a lot nicer than when I'd looked at it before. I'd still go to Scala first, but that ain't bad.