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Re:Xiaomi raises $1.1B on a $45B valuation by WhitneyLand on Monday December 29, 2014 @09:43AM (#8809935)
Will someone please explain this valuation? A company with very thin margins, no defendable IP, and very little barrier to entry for competitors. Yes I've noticed they seem to be executing well and starting international expansion but I can't see how investors get past the first three points.
Re:Xiaomi raises $1.1B on a $45B valuation by drewvolpe on Monday December 29, 2014 @12:36PM (#8810768)
They're doing about $10b / yr in revenue, so this is only a 4.5x multiple, which is small for a company growing this fast.

It's true that they have little defendable IP or innovative products. However, their scale, brand, and direct-to-consumer distribution are all significant barriers to competition.

Their model is basically to use their scale and product design process (ie, copy existing products) to make devices cheaper and then rely on their strong brand (in Asia anyway) and direct-to-consumer model to market and sell them cheaper than anyone else is able to.

This is why they're now the largest phone maker in China and the 5th largest in the world.

Re:Xiaomi raises $1.1B on a $45B valuation by akhatri_aus on Monday December 29, 2014 @09:53AM (#8809976)
Its probably something to do with their revenue growth. While they have razor thin margins, its very easy to increase them once there's some kind of brand established.

There's probably that bit of 'unknown' in there too, being that the company may be able to penetrate the Chinese market in creating a desirable product very well. The unknown being the Chinese market could be significantly larger than western markets in terms of how a single company could scale its sales in the single geographic location in such a way that history may not have seen before.

Re:Xiaomi raises $1.1B on a $45B valuation by Giulalbez on Monday December 29, 2014 @02:14PM (#8811265)
Xiaomi recently bought large stakes in chinese "youtubes" companies, YiQiYi and youku, it seems those companies are investing in creating their own TV shows and stuff, and big brands are advertising on the videos people in China already watch on those sites. The quality of the advertisings increased drasticcaly recently, with even big international brands advertising on them. Maybe someday phones will be like video-game consoles, where they loose money selling the hardware to make money on apps or services.
Re:Xiaomi raises $1.1B on a $45B valuation by steveax on Monday December 29, 2014 @01:35PM (#8811071)
Very easy to increase margins? Historically, this is very difficult for companies to do. What makes Xiaomi special in this aspect?
Re:Xiaomi raises $1.1B on a $45B valuation by akhatri_aus on Tuesday December 30, 2014 @09:31AM (#8814683)
It's building recognisable brand, and that too a fairly good one. Historically it's been quite easy for companies that do this to raise margins. This is a company barely 4 years old and quite nearly a household name in asian countries.

Additionally when manufacturing electronics, input components decrease in price so there is a natural tendency for their margins to increase even if they keep their pricing consistent.